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    pickup: 59
    guitar wood: swamp ash
    amp: marshall type

    any clips???

    I'm normally a high output guy, but the 59's been piquing my interest...
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    Default Re: most specific request ever..lol

    thats gonna be BRIGHT.

    I think A2 mags would be better for swamp ash....CC...or EVH.
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    Default Re: most specific request ever..lol

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffB
    thats gonna be BRIGHT.

    I think A2 mags would be better for swamp ash....CC...or EVH.
    to many highs ya think?

    I've been lookin' at all the customs..not sure I like the 'spongy' low end they talk about in the CC though =( other than that, I think it might be for me...don't think the bass would be too much? swamp ash tends to be balanced on the lows and highs with the mids 'scooped' if you can use that term for a tone wood =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shreder75
    to many highs ya think?

    I've been lookin' at all the customs..not sure I like the 'spongy' low end they talk about in the CC though =( other than that, I think it might be for me...don't think the bass would be too much? swamp ash tends to be balanced on the lows and highs with the mids 'scooped' if you can use that term for a tone wood =)
    Zakkly why I'd go A2..since highs and bass are pulled back and mids are accentuated.

    Spongy is relative...don't automatically think "spongy" means "loose" or "farty"...its just not as tight as A5. Thats what I used to think til I started messing with some A2 pups. Check the R8 clip on my soundclick...www.soundclick.com/litrtrdnck. BB2 w/ A2 mag.
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    I like the sound of that pickup..nice and crunchy, and like you said, bass isn't farty..but it's full sounding..

    how're the harmonics? it's important to me that it be percussive..I have a JB in my alder body lynch which I really dig as well...that's got harmonics out the ass and is very percussive
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    I had a PGn (A2) in my Ash Strat and it sounds great. Never tried one in the bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shreder75
    I like the sound of that pickup..nice and crunchy, and like you said, bass isn't farty..but it's full sounding..

    how're the harmonics? it's important to me that it be percussive..I have a JB in my alder body lynch which I really dig as well...that's got harmonics out the ass and is very percussive

    Pinch harmonics are decent on the BB2..better than a 59 or a Custom, but not as easy to get as a JB or Super Distortion. A5/Ceramics are nearly always easier I think for getting pinches out of. But I didn't find them difficult at all. They have a different tone though...more vocal or sweet...kinda Mathias or early EVH vs. "screamy" sounding like George. But alot of that could be the guitar as well.
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    welp, we'll see what we'll see =D lookin' into gettin' a TB 11 as we speak..a pain in the ass to find
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    well, i have a strat with swamp ash body, neck w rosewood fretboard
    and a lil59 in neck position. it's a hardtail strat which i use with strings
    011-048.
    but i can't tell if my engl really does marshall sound.

    i could run through the roland's marshal tsl100 simulation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltar
    well, i have a strat with swamp ash body, neck w rosewood fretboard
    and a lil59 in neck position. it's a hardtail strat which i use with strings
    011-048.
    but i can't tell if my engl really does marshall sound.

    i could run through the roland's marshal tsl100 simulation
    that would be cool..i'm a whore for clips
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    Listen to the first 2 Van Halen albums.

    PAF pickup
    Swamp Ash Strat body
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    I tried a 59 (A5) in my hardtail swampash strat, and I thought it sounded pretty good. Swapping the A5 for an A2 gave a pretty good brown sound.

    I don't consider ash bright: it has less mids than alder, but alder seems to have more high-highs or presence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPete
    I tried a 59 (A5) in my hardtail swampash strat, and I thought it sounded pretty good. Swapping the A5 for an A2 gave a pretty good brown sound.

    I don't consider ash bright: it has less mids than alder, but alder seems to have more high-highs or presence.
    It depends on the type of ash used too. Swamp Ash is warmer than Northern Hard Ash, which is very hard and dense.

    Here's Warmoth's full description of both types.

    Ash (Fraxinus americana):
    We have two very different types of Ash: Northern Hard Ash and Swamp Ash (Southern Soft Ash). Northern Hard Ash is very hard, heavy and dense. A Strat® body will normally weigh 5 lbs. and up. It's density contributes to a bright tone and a long sustain which makes it very popular. It's color is creamy, but it also tends to have heartwood featuring pink to brown tints. The grain pores are open and it takes a lot of finish to fill them up. Swamp Ash is a prized wood for many reasons. It is a very musical wood offering a very nice balance of brightness and warmth with a lot of "pop". It is a fairly light weight wood which makes it easily distinguishable from Hard Ash. A Strat® body will normally weigh under 5 lbs. Many of the 50's Fenders were made of Swamp Ash. The grain is open and the color is creamy. This wood is a very nice choice for clear finishes. Swamp Ash is our second most popular wood.

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    the CC is far from being farty or loose.
    i know WFD loves it for black/death metal, so its definately no slouch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikH
    Listen to the first 2 Van Halen albums.

    PAF pickup
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    that's what I've heard...CC being the VH tone in a little jewel box..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey
    the CC is far from being farty or loose.
    i know WFD loves it for black/death metal, so its definately no slouch.

    sounds to me like it's a pickup with many personalities..and I dig that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shreder75
    sounds to me like it's a pickup with many personalities..and I dig that...
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    yea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shreder75
    that's what I've heard...CC being the VH tone in a little jewel box..lol
    It is, but not all of VH. His homemade used on the first 2 albums is a PAF with one coil rewound. You'll get closer with a '59 in there than the CC but the CC will lend a little more edge to some of the later stuff. But if you want to go total PAF in there, DMZ PAF (not the Pro or Classic either, just the plain 'ole original PAF). Absolutely killer pickup in a strat body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey
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    yea.


    can i have your splawn now?



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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikH
    It is, but not all of VH. His homemade used on the first 2 albums is a PAF with one coil rewound. You'll get closer with a '59 in there than the CC but the CC will lend a little more edge to some of the later stuff. But if you want to go total PAF in there, DMZ PAF (not the Pro or Classic either, just the plain 'ole original PAF). Absolutely killer pickup in a strat body.
    I think this'll be cool...I like the added power being there if I need it..I'm not lookin' for totally vintage, but if it can also do that, then great
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