Question for wiring gurus...artietoo

[tone4days]

T4D, I take it you caught your mistake? You'ld only have the bridge pup on the bottom 3 positions. LJKings drawing was great too.
Artie

yup - bad proofreading on my part
i will delete them when we come to a suitable solution on this thread

did you have any thoughts on how to modify yours for 2 volume controls?

t4d

[ArtieToo]

did you have any thoughts on how to modify yours for 2 volume controls?

t4d

I'm looking that over now. Not sure I can improve on Chips design.

Artie

[Fresh_Start]

Artie - I love the dual-gang pot idea for the volume control! Didn't know they made a 250k/500k version, but that would be great. Then you could have a really clean design with only 2 knobs...

Or you could have one tone control for the neck pup (maybe a .0011 cap for the "woman tone" thing) & another for the bridge with a .0022 cap. Only downside there is that both tone pots would be in the circuit in position 3 with the neck/bridge combo - might make it muddy and I really like the twang in there.

Chip

[LJ King]

As I read back through this thread I think the volume/tone control operation is what is causing the different diagrams to come about. I completely agree that the terms of single coil volume and bridge volume can come to mean everything that has been created so far.

I suggest we change the terms to "lead" and "rhythm" to break the connection of assumptions between the pickups and ask bungalowbill to specify what he is looking for with the various pickup switch positions.

So to the end of hopefully clarification, this would be what my diagram does.


1- bridge - lead volume/tone - pull pot coil tap
2- bridge & middle - rhythm volume - pull pot coil tap
3- bridge & neck - rhythm volume - pull pot coil tap
4- neck & middle - rhythm volume
5- neck - rhythm volume

My understanding is not for me to decide. That is the domain of bungalowbill.

This is why I do a schematic first, and a wiring scheme after my understanding is verified.

[bungalowbill]

Hey guys...sorry about the late response (I took my boy fishing).
I've thought about how to do this a lot and I'm gonna need to stick with a single volume control. I use volume swells regularly and with all different pup combos. 1 volume and 2 tones will have to do and I might have to live with a darker bucker tone. Thanks to everyone who replied and I didn't mean to be a pain in the posterior.

[tone4days]

cool

master volume it is ...

so artie's pic above has you sorted!
cheers
t4d

[ArtieToo]

cool

master volume it is ...

so artie's pic above has you sorted!
cheers
t4d

With that being sorted . . . I still want to "tweak" on that diagram a bit. This isn't rocket science. There must be a way.

[bungalowbill]

With that being sorted . . . I still want to "tweak" on that diagram a bit. This isn't rocket science. There must be a way.

To me, it IS rocket science. Thanks, Artie.

[LJ King]

With that being sorted . . . I still want to "tweak" on that diagram a bit. This isn't rocket science. There must be a way.

I admit I do not understand. A way for what?

I think it is good news a volume control switch is not necessary. This frees up one pole on the switch that can be used for switching between tone controls.

[ArtieToo]

I admit I do not understand. A way for what?

I just meant a "way" to synthesize two different volume pot values using only one real pot, in a way that didn't cause taper anomalies.

Edit: Or . . . a way to alleviate the simple tone loss that comes from using the "wrong" pot with the wrong pup.

[LJ King]

I just meant a "way" to synthesize two different volume pot values using only one real pot, in a way that didn't cause taper anomalies.

Edit: Or . . . a way to alleviate the simple tone loss that comes from using the "wrong" pot with the wrong pup.

I understand.

Unfortunately everything has it trade offs. The best you can ever do is balance them so that the faults are not too bad.

[ArtieToo]

I agree. I just use 250's with humbuckers. I like the added "smoothness".

[Fresh_Start]

Hey guys...sorry about the late response (I took my boy fishing).
I've thought about how to do this a lot and I'm gonna need to stick with a single volume control. I use volume swells regularly and with all different pup combos. 1 volume and 2 tones will have to do and I might have to live with a darker bucker tone. Thanks to everyone who replied and I didn't mean to be a pain in the posterior.

No worries bro' Guido is on his way to pay you a visit.....

just kiddin'

BTW if you use the "ganged pot" (500k and 250k) that Artie talked about, you'd only have one volume knob that applied all the time and still be able to have two separate tone knobs.

Anyway, I'm glad to have finally worked out the independent volumes w/ the superswitch.

Chip

[bungalowbill]

No worries bro' Guido is on his way to pay you a visit.....

just kiddin'

BTW if you use the "ganged pot" (500k and 250k) that Artie talked about, you'd only have one volume knob that applied all the time and still be able to have two separate tone knobs.

Anyway, I'm glad to have finally worked out the independent volumes w/ the superswitch.

Chip

Thanks for the help Chip. Guido......LOL