Important warning regarding the TB-2n spacing

[bowzee]

Hi everyone,

I am posting just to make a warning regarding the TB-2n spacing, it measures 52.6 mm from center of first pole piece to the center of the last one. On my Cort X-11, with a Floyd-Rose type bridge, the neck humbucker spacing is about 50.5 mm, so the TB-2n is 0.5 mm worst than the 49.0 mm of the SH-2n.

Does anyone know why Seymour Duncan does not manufacture the TB-2n with 50.5 mm?

Thanks, bowzee.

[theodie]

That pickup is not really made to go in the neck position bro, it is made to go into the bridge position of HSS guitars to match the output of single coils.

[TimmyPage]

Err.. it IS kinda a trem bucker... spaced differently you know..

[theodie]

Err.. it IS kinda a trem bucker... spaced differently you know..

It is a infact trem spaced pickup! its made for the reason I stated in my last post.

[guitarslinger213]

spacing doesn't matter very much. it will sound fine. I have an ibanez rg with non-tremspaced bridge bucker and a trem spaced neck bucker. don't sweat it.

[ArtieToo]

I am posting just to make a warning regarding the TB-2n spacing, it measures 52.6 mm from center of first pole piece to the center of the last one.

Yup. Thats exactly what they publish as the the E-to-E spacing.

So remind me . . . what was the warning? Their specs are accurate? I hate when that happens.

[TimmyPage]

Yup. Thats exactly what they publish as the the E-to-E spacing.

So remind me . . . what was the warning? Their specs are accurate? I hate when that happens.

I felt so wronged when I measured my pickups resistance and it was 14k, just like Seymour said. I felt so betrayed, like he had told the truth or something...

[bowzee]

Yup. Thats exactly what they publish as the the E-to-E spacing.

So remind me . . . what was the warning? Their specs are accurate? I hate when that happens.

Hi ArtieToo,

The problem is the description of the item. As I just learned from theodie (thanks for that theodie) the "TB" feature is dominant, not the "n" feature. Or in other words, TB-2n means that you are going to get a 52.5 mm pickup with coils calibrated for the neck position, not that you are going to get a pickup for the neck position of your guitar that has a Floyd-Rose-style bridge (that roughly should measure 50.5 mm and not 49 mm as the SH-2n).

I posted the warning to help other users not to buy a TB-2n for the neck position... I have one here on my shelf now.

bowzee.

[ArtieToo]

Ah . . . thanks for that clarification. I didn't realize there was such a thing.
Good info to know.

Sorry if I sounded too sarcastic.

[dani]

i never knew there was a trembucker for the neck.

[theodie]

I posted a thread about it a while ago actually! Its made to mix well with single coil pickups in a HSS axe.

[Zhangliqun]

52.6mm is pretty much Trem/F-spacing.

Pole spacing accuracy is much more crucial for the neck position than the bridge because on the bridge, even if the pole is off center, it will still pick up all the treble, which is all that's coming of the string in the bridge position anyway.

In the neck, it needs to be dead-center to get all the low mids and bass, just getting the treble off the edge won't cut it.

So in my experience, it almost doesn't matter what the bridge spacing is, 50.5 mm will do the trick even on trem guitars. 49 mm is better for the neck for Gibson-spaced guitars and 50 mm is probably best for the neck on Strats, etc.

[Gearjoneser]

Don't let that pickup go to waste. If you don't need it, it's an easy sell.
The Jazz's are the most overlooked humbuckers Duncan makes, and only because of the name.....the pickups sound really good. If you want a strat to have a balanced HSS setup, and want a humbucker that still has some nice treble bite and less mids than hotter humbuckers, use a Jazz Bridge or Neck as your bridge pickup.

[ErikH]

Wait a minute....did you special order this? I just don't see why a tremspaced neck pickup would be ordered, especially with that kind of spacing on them.

Did you measure your string spacing before getting it? I'm guessing you didn't.

[theodie]

Wait a minute....did you special order this? I just don't see why a tremspaced neck pickup would be ordered, especially with that kind of spacing on them.

Did you measure your string spacing before getting it? I'm guessing you didn't.

There is a seller on Ebay that stocks them! If I remember right, he also has APH neck trembuckers also.

Erik, read the other posts, a neck position pickup in the bridge will match up to single coils ALOT better than a bridge position! You will need the trem spacing for the bridge of a strat also! Got it now?

[ErikH]

There is a seller on Ebay that stocks them! If I remember right, he also has APH neck trembuckers also.

Erik, read the other posts, a neck position pickup in the bridge will match up to single coils ALOT better than a bridge position! You will need the trem spacing for the bridge of a strat also! Got it now?

Yeah, I got that part the first time. I just never saw neck pickups being made with tremspacing is all. That's the part that threw me off. Not only is it a tremspaced jazz, which is special order anyway even for the bridge, but a tremspaced jazz neck to boot.

[bowzee]

I posted a thread about it a while ago actually! Its made to mix well with single coil pickups in a HSS axe.

Hi theodie,
Wow, I am going to look for your thread, I may use it to sell the TB-2n on my shelf... Very Nice!

So in my experience, it almost doesn't matter what the bridge spacing is, 50.5 mm will do the trick even on trem guitars. 49 mm is better for the neck for Gibson-spaced guitars and 50 mm is probably best for the neck on Strats, etc.

Hi Zhangliqun,
The neck spacing on my Cort X-11 is 50.5 mm (not bridge, that is about 52.6 mm).

Don't let that pickup go to waste. If you don't need it, it's an easy sell.
The Jazz's are the most overlooked humbuckers Duncan makes, and only because of the name.....the pickups sound really good. If you want a strat to have a balanced HSS setup, and want a humbucker that still has some nice treble bite and less mids than hotter humbuckers, use a Jazz Bridge or Neck as your bridge pickup.

Hi Gearjoneser,
Thanks for the advice, I may try to sell the TB-2n, but because I do not live in the USA it may be a bit complicated. I don't plan to use it myself, I already bought a SH-2n, I still have to install it. I sent an e-mail to the local Seymour Duncan rep. here asking if I could exchange it, but I never got an answer...

Wait a minute....did you special order this? I just don't see why a tremspaced neck pickup would be ordered, especially with that kind of spacing on them.

Did you measure your string spacing before getting it? I'm guessing you didn't.

Hi ErikH,
I didn't special-order this but I bought from the guy who does:

http://mikes-music-shop.com

Yes, I measured the spacing and I asked Mike about the spacing. He gave me this answer, which made me believe that I would get a 50.5 mm Trembucker:

"Here's the F-spaced from Dimarzio. It allpys to Seymour Duncan pick-ups also:

DiMarzio uses the term F-spaced to describe the pole spacing required for guitars that have tremolos. So, if you want a DiMarzio PAF bridge pick-up for your guitar and it has a tremolo, then you would want the DiMarzio PAF bridge pick-up to be F-spaced, so the strings go over the pole pieces instead of off to the left or right of the pick-ups pole pieces. F-spaced humbuckers should be used on all guitars with string spacing of 2.1" (53 MM ), FROM ACTUAL E STRING TO ACTUAL E STRING WHERE THEY CROSS OVER THE BRIDGE PIECE, or greater. On guitars with a nut width of 1& 11/16" ( 43 MM ), or greater, F-spaced pick-ups should be used in the neck position."



Thanks to all of you, Bowzee.

[theodie]

Yeah, I got that part the first time. I just never saw neck pickups being made with tremspacing is all. That's the part that threw me off. Not only is it a tremspaced jazz, which is special order anyway even for the bridge, but a tremspaced jazz neck to boot.

I have heard that Seymour Recomends a Jazz neck in the bridge of a strat to balance out with singles. They are probally just floor custom. These have been on Ebay for quite a few months now. I think Banjomikez sells them If I remember right.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Seymour-Duncan-T...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/TB-APH-1n-NECK-T...QQcmdZViewItem

[frankfalbo]

That's just Dimarzio's flawed logic. A regular spaced neck pickup is fine for guitars with wide spaced bridges and nuts. So I have to disagree with them on that recommendation, using F spaced neck pickups on 43mm nut trem guitars. MAYBE a 1 3/4" extra wide nut, but still not necessary.

[bowzee]

I have heard that Seymour Recomends a Jazz neck in the bridge of a strat to balance out with singles. They are probally just floor custom. These have been on Ebay for quite a few months now. I think Banjomikez sells them If I remember right.

Hi theodie,

Yes, Banjomikez is the person from whom I bought this, the link that I posted above is of his store. I made a direct purchase that didn't go through eBay.

Thanks, bowzee