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    Default Which pickup is darker?

    I like a dark sound out of the neck position and I'm currently looking at the APII and the Jazz, which one is darker in the neck?
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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    The Black ones are darker.
    Seriously though, if you go to the Duncan site and check out the tone charts, look for a pickup that has a low number for resonance peak (down toward 5, and not up near 7). Also check the DC resistance. Most of the time higher DC resistance equals darker sound, (a 7.0 will be brighter than a 10.0 made of the same material.) Higher numbers here also mean the pickup will be "hotter" as they say. Combine these two and you can identify the darker sounding pickups.

    Having said this, take it with a grain of salt, because it does not always hold completely true, other factors like magnet type and whether its active or passive play a part too, but it still works pretty good.

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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    It might just be me, but i do not think of either pu's as dark !

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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    Like Jack said, neither is what one would call dark, but out of the two, the APH is darker.

    Overall though, I think that out of the Duncan catalog, the Seth Lover is the thickest and smoothest neck 'bucker they make.
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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benjy_26 View Post
    Like Jack said, neither is what one would call dark, but out of the two, the APH is darker.

    Overall though, I think that out of the Duncan catalog, the Seth Lover is the thickest and smoothest neck 'bucker they make.
    If its any help I have an Ibanez RGA 121 . This has a Mahogany body with a maple arched cap. I have just replaced my Jazz in the Neck with a Pearly gates. Much Much nicer, rich, Smooth and meaty. The Jazz was far too bright and jangly for my liking.

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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    If you like dark, you can always use the Bridge model of the APH or PG in the neck. But you should define dark a little more clearly. When someone says dark, I think of two different things:

    1. Highs are trimmed down, kind of like the tone knob is at "9" or...
    2. Lows are boosted, highs remain clear and crisp.

    To me, a broad generalization would be that Alnico II neck pups soften the highs like #1, but they also have a nice round low end, that prevents them from sounding muddy or dull. Alnico V neck pickups have a deeper low end, boosted a little, with a little scoop in the mids, so that while it's got deep low end, it's still got more clarity and articulation in the high end than an AII pickup.

    So the 59N/B, JazzN/B will be deep and thumpy in the low end, but the PGN/B & APHN/B will have a smoother, sweeter top end, but a little softer low end, too.

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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    If you're looking for darker -- or more accurately, smoother -- go with the Alnico 2 Pro.
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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    With my rigs, I find the jazz to be brighter than the a2Pro.

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    Default Re: Which pickup is darker?

    Anyone have any experience with a screamin demon in the neck?
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    Washburn Boogie Street Elite Idol - 85/81
    Washburn X-50 - Custom Custom
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