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    Default Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Anyone have one use one know about these?

    I saw someone talking about a friends... I'm thinking of getting one instead of a 5e3 clone for more headroom and sounds (with a bias selector switch to get tweed or black face type sounds). Looks like they don't use the best components, but the price is right.

    Found these
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5XOZy6WYM8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNrVP-y2dmY
    Their site: http://www.frenzeltubeamps.com/id13.html

    Opinions, thoughts, comments?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    My buddy has one and the quality is actually top notch and the tone is even better. He's currently running KT88's in it so it's got a ton of headroom and it's bloody LOUD.
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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Thanks JumpMarine. He wouldn't have any clips would he?

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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Robert View Post
    Thanks JumpMarine. He wouldn't have any clips would he?
    No problem. He doesn't have any clips but I will ask him to put some together when he gets back next week from FL.

    BTW, those clips on the Frenzel site are quite accurate. My buddy has tried just about everything in that amp so far for power tubes(6v6, 6l6, EL34, KT88 and EL84's with yellow jackets) It sound good with all, but really shines with 6l6's and KT 88's. He's been running it into a 2x12 loaded with V30/Texas Heat and that combo works quite well for both the Fender and Marshall channels.
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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Thanks for all the info JumpMarine

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    I have a Frenzel 5F6 amp. I really like this thing. It looks like some 8th grade science project since it doesn't have any enclosure, but the sound is unbelievable.
    Turn me on, Dead Man.

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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    If I get one, I'll build a head cab for it.

    JumpMarine, I just saw an Iron Sounds on eBay and listened to the clips - which sounded fantastic. Now I'm maybe interested in one of those.

    Would you mind giving a little review of yours?

    Thanks.

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    I get weak in the knees at the sight of a vintage Fender amp!

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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    just remember if you get one the resale value isn't that great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Robert View Post
    If I get one, I'll build a head cab for it.

    JumpMarine, I just saw an Iron Sounds on eBay and listened to the clips - which sounded fantastic. Now I'm maybe interested in one of those.

    Would you mind giving a little review of yours?

    Thanks.
    It's a great amp that gets you right in the JTM45/Plexi vibe without the crazy volume. It is loud and will keep up quite nicely with an unmiked drummer. The clips that Jersey Aaron posts on the website are quite accurate with what I hear with mine. Here's a short clip of the one I built: Normal Channel(Vol/Tone only): This is with a strat and gets a boost mid way with an OCD set to zero gain and max volume only http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/s...ight=ocd+boost

    It really gets wicked with humbuckers and p90's!


    The specs on the amp:
    2 EL84, 3 12ax7
    18 Watts
    2 Channel, Normal(Vol/Tone) TMB(Full Tone Stack, 2 Vol for cascading gain stage)Channels are bridgeable and sound great.
    Negative Feedback switch
    Line Out
    Multi Tap Ohm speaker out(4/8/16)
    Can be set up with either tube or SS Rectifier depending on what transformer you have. If it's the Heyborer/Ironsounds then it's SS only and it sounds great.
    Footswitchable Preamp Gain Boost, haven't used this much to give you a good review.

    It is very sensitive and really cleans up nicely with just the guitars volume. Takes to pedals very well and is extreely quiet even when dimed. Some improvements that I need to make to the amp: Remote the rectifier diodes off of the board due to excess heat from a 5 watt resistor close by and add a vol control to the line out. Other than that, GREAT amp!
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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpMarine View Post
    It's a great amp that gets you right in the JTM45/Plexi vibe without the crazy volume. It is loud and will keep up quite nicely with an unmiked drummer. The clips that Jersey Aaron posts on the website are quite accurate with what I hear with mine. Here's a short clip of the one I built: Normal Channel(Vol/Tone only): This is with a strat and gets a boost mid way with an OCD set to zero gain and max volume only http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/s...ight=ocd+boost

    It really gets wicked with humbuckers and p90's!


    The specs on the amp:
    2 EL84, 3 12ax7
    18 Watts
    2 Channel, Normal(Vol/Tone) TMB(Full Tone Stack, 2 Vol for cascading gain stage)Channels are bridgeable and sound great.
    Negative Feedback switch
    Line Out
    Multi Tap Ohm speaker out(4/8/16)
    Can be set up with either tube or SS Rectifier depending on what transformer you have. If it's the Heyborer/Ironsounds then it's SS only and it sounds great.
    Footswitchable Preamp Gain Boost, haven't used this much to give you a good review.

    It is very sensitive and really cleans up nicely with just the guitars volume. Takes to pedals very well and is extreely quiet even when dimed. Some improvements that I need to make to the amp: Remote the rectifier diodes off of the board due to excess heat from a 5 watt resistor close by and add a vol control to the line out. Other than that, GREAT amp!
    Thanks for the review JumpMarine, I lost track of this thread.

    I decided to go with a Frenzel and just ordered one... will take 4-5 weeks to build.

    I'll post a review and clips when I get.

    The next-next amp is going to have to be a 18watt marshall clone.

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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    If the 5E3 you were looking at has the right OT, it can handle 6L6 tubes and give you that oomph you're looking for.


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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_F View Post
    If the 5E3 you were looking at has the right OT, it can handle 6L6 tubes and give you that oomph you're looking for.
    Oh this little amp will do that and then some.
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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    It seems priced right at 475. Is that for the chassis only or is there a speaker and cab that come with it?


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    It's for the chassis+tubes. I'm going to have a friend build me a head cab, and I'm still deciding on a speaker cab; likley to be an Avatar 112. His site says $475, but you can get it for $425 from him through EBay.

    I also got the bias switch - go from fixed to cathode biased, and the different OT with switch for different ohm speaker configurations.

    I don't know how, but this amp can take any octal (SP?) based power tube.

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    My buddy is running his through an Avatar 2x12(Vintage 30/Texas Heat) open back, it sounds huge. He also sent it back into Jim to have the larger multi tap OT added, it's worth it.
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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    Alright, Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus is scheduled to be delivered to my house on Friday!

    I scored a new Avatar 1x12 with G12H on Ebay to go with it.

    I'll post clips if anyone is interested.

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    Default Re: Frenzel 5e3 Deluxe Plus

    You won't be sorry with your purchase! It's a great amp.....
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