new 'Slash' A2P vs. regular A2P

[Christopher Caruana]

has anyone compared these? is the difference even that big to hear? If I already have the regular A2P set, is it worth buying the new 'slash' set?

[super rad stuff]

i bet that in due time there will be demo clips and videos soon after they come out with direct comparisons and you'll be able to decide by then

[J Moose]

I think it'd be really about impossible for anyone to compare them since they haven't been released yet... only a select few people have heard 'em or know anything about 'em.

[korovamilkdud]

If there is a difference between the tone of 4-conductor wire versus single-conductor wire...that might in fact be IT. You'd probably be able to save yourself some dough by ordering a couple feet of braided wire and whipping it out.

Referring to your soldering iron, of course.

[Mincer]

i can bet though, that the classic Slash sounds (the ones everyone wants) were made with the old pickup.

[DesertRat]

The main SD page has a description, sounds like the new one may be a bit overwound:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/product...co_ii_pro_s_1/

[oilpit]

That pickup honestly sounds like my dream pickup...

I'll start saving

[Christopher Caruana]

does the single conductor and wooden spacers have any effect on tone?

[oilpit]

Both are VERY minimal, but yes, they both technically effect tone...

[super rad stuff]

Originally Posted by oilpit

Both are VERY minimal, but yes, they both technically effect tone...

technically yea. i've never noticed any difference though. i've had maybe 3 or 4 single conductor pickups that i've converted to 4 conductor and haven't noticed any changes in tone.

[J Moose]

Originally Posted by Mincer

i can bet though, that the classic Slash sounds (the ones everyone wants) were made with the old pickup.

That'd be spot on!

Well... now that the cats out of the bag & its on the website...

The pickups in the Appetite guitar (the infamous copy) were stock off the shelf Alnico II's in the regular old pink box. Nothing special, same ones that everyone else buys are the ones he's been using for all these years.

The new pickup came about because the Appetite guitar sounded better then anything that Gibson has sent him, and so the pickup was developed to make the new guitars sound closer to the Max guitar.

AFAIK, the differences are very slight... its just a tweaked AII & the only major difference is the insulation on the wire which changes the way it all lays together. Its said to have a hair more "body" and bite...

There's virtually no audible difference between 2-conductor & 4-conductor wiring. Any stock pickup can be ordered with one or the other... same with long vs. short legs.

[BloodRose]

Originally Posted by Mincer

i can bet though, that the classic Slash sounds (the ones everyone wants) were made with the old pickup.

great point

[BloodRose]

Im kinda suprised. I figured it would be similar to the limited run MF is selling. Gold covers and I think gold poles..
Im anxious to hear from someone that can compare both.. If it has more body, it may serve me better in the bridge.. I once put a set of AIIpros in my LP and I LOVE the neck one, the bridge was so weak, I had to crank it so high that the pull of the magnet killed my sustain.. I really wanted to like it tho.
I ended up using a Suhr Aldrich in the bridge and still have the AIIP in the neck..

[Christopher Caruana]

Originally Posted by BloodRose

Im kinda suprised. I figured it would be similar to the limited run MF is selling. Gold covers and I think gold poles..
Im anxious to hear from someone that can compare both.. If it has more body, it may serve me better in the bridge.. I once put a set of AIIpros in my LP and I LOVE the neck one, the bridge was so weak, I had to crank it so high that the pull of the magnet killed my sustain.. I really wanted to like it tho.
I ended up using a Suhr Aldrich in the bridge and still have the AIIP in the neck..

I have the same set in my LP (aldrich bridge, A2P neck) and I love it!
but I do wish the neck was a little hotter to match the output of the aldrich better. So, it looks like this new "slash" model might be what im looking for.

[BloodRose]

Originally Posted by Christopher Caruana

I have the same set in my LP (aldrich bridge, A2P neck) and I love it!
but I do wish the neck was a little hotter to match the output of the aldrich better. So, it looks like this new "slash" model might be what im looking for.

Yeah, loved mine too! I sold the LP tho but kept the Aldrich out of it..
will have another similar guitar with the AIIPn /Aldrich combo!
Im thinking the same thing about the slash model.. hopefully itll have that lil bit more but not change the tone much

[super rad stuff]

on a side note...

am i the only person here who thinks the slash epiphone signature model guitar, with its smooth fat aII pros, would be a perfect ska guitar?

just sayin...

[Evan Skopp]

Here's the deal with the new Slash pickup. Virtually all the recordings you've heard Slash play on since 1986 were made with one guitar. Contrary to popular opinion, it's not a Max: it's a Derrig and it has stock Alnico II Pro pickups. The reason he uses that guitar, as opposed to any of his dozens of other Les Pauls, is because the Derrig just has a livelier, punchier, sound. When he plays live, he's less critical, but for recording, it's almost always the Derrig.

The new Slash pickup lets his other Les Pauls, what he calls his "live guitars," sound like the Derrig. That's it. More details will be forthcoming shortly. But for now, we have to get the finishing touches on our NAMM presentation together. Thanks, in advance, for your patience.

[Diocletian]

I love Slash, and his tone. This is another cool addition to the SD line up IMO.
I'm happy with my A2P but if I was buying another I'd certainly try the Slash one (assuming it's not much more expensive...)

[Christopher Caruana]

^^ ya I hope they will be offered along with the other regular standard pickups and not just as a custom shop thing

[BloodRose]

Ok, I get it.. Makes those poor ole lame gibsons sound big and tasty like his custom axe! sweet!