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    Hello again guys!!

    This is a new song, for a project I'm making. Again please if you guys can give me some feedback about the song, do you like it? What you guys think about the mix? Also what you think about the guitar tone too.

    Again for this project I'm looking for musicians, a drummer a singer (yes the song have lyrics), and another guitar player, I have a few songs alredy written i'm recording a demo so I can start showing something and get some guys join too.

    I use for recording MusicMan JP BFR, Seymour Duncan 805, Protone Dark Horse Deluxe, Mesa Boogie Mark V and Mesa Boogie Rectifier and Two Notes Torpedo Live.

    Thank you for everything guys!!!

    https://soundcloud.com/garitos-e-thulu/human-nature

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    Two thumbs up my brother!

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    Hi blacksoulpreacher,
    Thank you!!!! Glad you like it!

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    Hi guys!

    Here's the song with some minor fixes in the mix

    https://soundcloud.com/garitos-e-thu...h-some-fixes-1

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    I thought this was really cool. Nice progressive riff structure, and I could tell you took that advice to heart about overgaining your guitars because they sounded MUCH crisper this time. Great tone. I haven't listened to the revision yet.
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    Hi AmirH,

    Niiice I'm glad you like it!, also yea I'm asking for feedback, to see what am I doing wrong and to improve, there's a lot of people that ask for feedback but don't pay attention, not me hahaha I want to get better.

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    Default Re: New Song Some Feedback Please!

    sounds excellent!
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    Hi gibson175, Thank you bro!!!!

    I'm really glad you like it!!!!

    I'm still hoping to get more feedback guys, thank you!

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    Here's the mix with some other fixes let see what you guys think about it, also I'm recording another song I wrote so I'll post that soon too!!


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    The drums between the two versions are NIGHT and DAY!!!! You improved the drums soooooo much! You appear to be on the fast track to producing awesome sounding mixes.

    One thing that people forget to do is to change the timbre of the drums according to the arrangement. Treble on a kick drum is really only for cutting through a dense mix... same goes for the extra treble on the snare. During the clean part... soften up the drums so when the band kicks back in... the snare and kick remain just as punchy. During the clean part, the drums were super punchy and sounded fantastic but when the mix came back in, they sounded small and distant by comparison. You can avoid this contrast by softening up the drums during quiet passages. if the drums are playing by themselves during a break or fill... lower them until they appear as loud as they do when the whole band is playing in the mix. It's all about perceived loudness not actual levels.

    Raise the bass track... is there a bass track? Avoid sterile scooped bass sounds and go more for the dirty bass sounds of Motorhead and Cliff Burton... it will give your mixes extra girth and size without adding more bas frequencies.... sort of phattens up the low midrange which is the MEAT of any mix.

    Warm up the guitars... phatten them up in the 200-500hz range but be careful because this area can ruin a mix, blow speakers and rattle items off of computer desks when too phat.

    What I do is always run a multiband limiter in that range with ONLY the 200-500hz range selected and all others bypassed. Get the threshold low enough to make sure that the low mids didn't choke the life out of the track but keep it high enough to maintain the right amount of girth.

    The goal is to get your mix to sound BIG on small speakers. You won't get ANY help from the 20-100Hz range and will have to do all of your magic in the 100-600hz octave bands.

    Here's some of Zen's wisdoms for powerful mixes:

    1). Limit the HELL out of everything but don't ever OVER-LIMIT.

    2). Leave 3k-11khz alone as far as boosts are concerned. Let the natural amount of energy in those octave bands speak loud and clear without any intervention.

    3-5khz is problematic and you'll spend the majority of your cuts in this octave band.

    4). Sub freq boosts should be 20hz ONLY. Don't touch 30-80hz if you can help it.

    110hz-160hz is where the majority of the boomy bass frequencies exist... 120hz can be a consistent problem.

    5). Always use less gain when recording distorted guitars... if you need more juice, consider turning tube amps up louder or using the right compressor/sustainer. Low midrange boosts can also goose a signal nicely without adding more gain.

    6). THE BEST trick for distorted guitar is to split your path and record a clean signal alongside your distorted signal. This allows you to use gobs of gain but still have a clean guitar that you can process with the proper amount of EQ + dynamics to make the distorted signal sound clean and present.

    7). Consider double tracking bass when you might add another rhythm guitar track for thickening purposes. Adding single note bass overdub stabs for emphasis of certain notes/beats can add some serious dynamics to a song without an army of guitars making their usual appearance.

    8). It's not enough to go from distorted to clean and then back to distorted guitar tones again. You need to actually change tones in dark metal mixes from time to time.

    Let's be honest... human ears can only take so many songs in the open string keys. That's why jazz guys play in so many different keys during one gig... they are trying to grab everyone's ears repeatedly and consistently. They achieve this by avoiding the keys of the open strings. They might play a song or two in E or A but the majority of the night will be spent in Eb, C, G and Bb. Metal guys get around this be detuning where songs are now in B, D, Eb, C# and C which make our ears perk up after listening to a lifetime of songs in E and A.

    F# and B are instant keys for even self taught guitarists to explore... lean on these and consider C# minor so you can play a big phat E Major chord for a power 3rd.

    9). Think about breaks where instruments are solo'd or even full on stops by the entire band... they can add a crap-ton of life to a rather static mix.

    10). The drum and bass tracks are the MOST IMPORTANT tracks even in a guitar song. The drummer and bass player are always 1st. Albums that eschew bass plating in favor of guitar playing get laughed into eternity like "In Justice For All".

    Fact - Most of our favorite classic metal albums have horrible bass sounds. This might have been a plausible strategy in the late 70's-early 90's where subwoofers were scarce and most people listened to cassettes (muddy and oftentimes fuzzy bass subject to wow and flutter) or LPs (which had notoriously heavily limited sub octave bands) but is suicide for a mix in the post hip hop/electronica world we live in today.
    Overall, your song is good, you made great leaps and bounds from the 1st mix to the 2nd... I'd say, you are on the fast track to producing fantastic music.

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    Sounds very cool. One thing I love is when pinch harmonics are happening off to either side and not particularly the focus of the current riff. Adds such cool details to any track
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    Default Re: New Song Some Feedback Please!

    Hi guys!

    Wow zenmindbeginner thank you for your feedback!!!! Everything was important and noted hahaha, time to fix some things!!! Specially in the new one I just recorded!. Thank you!!!! And I'm glad you think I'm on a fast track hahaha thank you bro!

    Rashayritto Thank you bro!!! I'm really glad you like it!!!

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