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    Quote Originally Posted by SixStringSales View Post
    Have you looked at Laney Lionheart? Really awesome tube amps at great price. The 20w 4x10 is like wall of full sound just drowning you in it. Plenty loud for sure. You can buy with confidence because you know it will sound good. Really high gain too. Most people don't think so but it's true.
    Haven't tried that one. To be honest, I'm not in the market for another amp right now anyway. But if I was to plop down the kind of money those Lionhearts go for, I'd be throwing it at a Mission Amps Aurora. I've played those and they sound amazing. A nice 22 watter with reverb, toss a good drive pedal out front and I'm good to go.

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    I imagine this question was more aimed at gigging, but for simple home use, its hard to beat a Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 60. Sweet little amp. (Get the "R", reverb. Not the DSP, digital effects.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    I imagine this question was more aimed at gigging, but for simple home use, its hard to beat a Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 60. Sweet little amp. (Get the "R", reverb. Not the DSP, digital effects.)
    Yes! I had one of those a long time ago. I used to think they were best sounding solid states around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    i have a crate powerblock and ive used it in a pinch which is why i got it but other than that no. the feel is as important as the sound and ive never played a ss amp that had that feel

    Same here. I use mine as a backup and to amplify my POD for practice. I would sure hate to have to resort to it if something happened to my Mark IV at a gig. It would be the ultimate bummer. The Powerblock does not sound horrible with the Twin Tube Classic in front of it.. but nothing like a Boogie

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixStringSales View Post
    I am curious how people think in this subject. If I admit my personal preference, it would be tube amps all the way! What is the majority opinion of once you go with tube amps you never like solid state again? [I know there will be exception]

    The funny thing is a buddy of mine who was the biggest tube head I ever met, bought an axefx last year. He still uses a tube poweramp, but I never thought I'd see the day he would use anything solid state other than an overdrive pedal, but he ditched his triaxis for this thing. Go figure....

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    Hot, cooking tubes and all those watts of volume are way overkill for a good percentage of the time I can pick up a guitar. Solid state will always be better for certain situations. And all-digital modeling even better for others.

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    i have had analog solid state amps, digital (modeling) solid state amps, and tube amps with varying degrees of solid state elements ... i currently own all three varieties and get results that i am happy with from all three

    nothing put as big a smile on my face as playing my mesa boogie roadster rig

    nothing put as big a hurtin' on my wallet or back as my mesa boogie roadster rig

    i have really liked the spot on consistency of my analog solid state gear (both amps and rack gear) ... worked every time, sounded the same every time ...

    i am migrating back to a tube based set up with a blues jr and pedals ... i hope i can count on the reliability factor ... might have to keep my modeler pedal with me as drop in backup in case of troubles with the rig

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    I prefer tubes myself, but there is this one guy in town that sounds terrific through his rack-mounted POD PRO, and a mosfet power amp and 4x12. all the Fender, Marshall, Mesa amps, he has all of them dialed in, but then again, he used to do alot of studio work in Nashville, and had the opportunity and the time to set his POD next to the real amps and tweak the tones. He does sound awsome. The first time I heard it, I was sure he was playing thru a wall of amps.
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    Don't care what it is....if it kills...then it kills!

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    Other than a couple of very small practice amps, which are used for cleans only and sound pretty durn good,I am a tube guy. I also own several hybrid SS/Tube amps however-Kustoms and Peaveys. The Peaveys I keep around foor this very brutal distortion they put out, and the Kustoms have some nice cleans and are collectors amps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixStringSales View Post
    I am curious how people think in this subject. If I admit my personal preference, it would be tube amps all the way! What is the majority opinion of once you go with tube amps you never like solid state again? [I know there will be exception]

    to tell the truth i use all of the formates... Digital, SS, Tube... all 3 types of amps do different things for me...

    i use Digital formates when i want a big MultiFX like set up and it's great for lower volume and recording...

    I use my various SS amps for home practices and lower volume jams...

    and i mostly use my Tube amps for band practices and gigs... but a few lower wattage tube amps i own i have used at home with some pedals...

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    I've got a 130 watt tube powered peavey half-stack, and still love to play my VOX AD50VT... There's room for both in my life.
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    count me in as the exception:
    I do gigs with a Tech21 Trademark 60, which rocks. It is more reliable than my Boogie Blue Angel, but the Blue Angel sounds better (as long as it has been on for over an hour).

    With my guitar synth/looping rig, I don't even use an amp- I use a full range PA setup for that, all SS. There is no way I'd even want tubes anywhere near that rig, since the sounds I want have nothing to do with classic sounds. Plus, it has to mix with guitar synth, which sounds terrible through a tube amp, and I am not about to bring several amps to a gig as long as I have to set everything up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gr8Scott View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    count me in as the exception:
    I do gigs with a Tech21 Trademark 60, which rocks. . .
    +1 I haven't used my Boogie Mark IV (widebody) at a gig in a good while. The TDMK 60 gets loud enough for what I need to do (and if not, I can mike it or go direct), has a surprisingly good tone, and is much lighter/smaller. The Boogie has that "something," especially with NOS RCA 12AX7's i the pre stages.

    Also have a POD that I use at home; won't use it live anymore (had an issue with inconsistent, dirty power and it literally crashing), but I get good clean tones from it, and just use my pedalboard.

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    i converted maybe a year back. dont get me wrong, i would NEVER play a SS over a tube when i want good tone. but if i wanted to do something weird or specific i could see a SS coming in handy. once i ran the speaker out of a 140w SS into the input of a 25w SS and the result was awesome. i set both to clean and ended up with a thick as syrup, ballsy ****ing tone. hey its good to have that weird variety sometimes, and experimenting with tube amps is risky and costly
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    I totally forgot how totally awesome it sounds to have a killer tube amp cranked. I'm not sure if I'm gonna watch some porn at the moment or just crank my amp again and bust one on it.

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    Oh, ss works for a little practice amp or a stage monitor. But performance wise, I doubt I'd go back to ss. The only exception for me might be getting a nice JC-120 to use exclusively for cleans.
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    I've owned my humble share of all three; ss, digital and tube. So far I've liked tubes best.

    The tube amps I've played have not only had the nicest tone, but more than it, the best dynamics. But I understand that they're not that important to all players.

    I've heard some great digital sounds and got them myself through my PodXT. But there's some unwanted fizz and lack of dynamics there that I don't like. And somehow I feel wrong about it. And music is about feel in my opinion, so I don't get so well along with digital modeling stuff.

    I'd love to get a nice ss amp some time in the future. Maybe some Tech21 stuff, maybe something else. But I'd like it to be something original, something that doesn't try to copy the old marshall/fender/boogie tones. So far none of the ss amps I've tried have been that great, but it's no surprise as they've been cheaper beginner amps. I haven't seen that many better ones around, sadly.

    All in all I don't really like this oldies mentality in the guitar business. Everyone is trying to copy the sounds from the sixties and seventies. With all the possibilities that ss and digital gives us, the things they sell to us are modelers. I love to play around digital synth stuff with keyboards and I'm thrilled with all the sonic possibilities they have. But even they seem to have a sort of vintage craze these days. I'd love to see something original and something that breaks borders between different classical instrument separations and so on. I know I can get a midi pickup on a guitar, but I think that there should be more stuff designed with the guitar as a primary control interface. Call me crazy, I guess.
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    Been a Fender guy since day one, had about 6 models, all tubes and also a huge Ampeg. Had a nice Classic 30 for a while, now it's Reverend, a kick ass budget boutique, and a hybrid Legend, 1/2 SS and 1/2 tube...killer amp. A Fender 65 SS for cleans while using my acoustic similator pedal. I've just discovered gold when I use all 3 (Morley Tripler) as the Rev (with UK setting) has the Brit tube crunch, the Legend has the hard crunch with mid sweetness, and even the Fender 65, loud MF with the gain channel used, has a pleasant processed crunch that just blends so well when all 3 amps are used. Massive tube gain can quickly turn to mud...I feel using SS can and does help to tighten up and give that clean cut edge to work well with tube gain. So for me, SS has found a place in my heart, I don't consider myself a tube snob, yes, it has THE tone I love, but SS really enhances and pushes it into perfection, in the right combination. For me, tubes AND solid state can live and work together well...I love my tone!

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    I use both. I like to mix SS (attack'n'edge) with tube (body'n'depth). I really like these SS amps:

    - old Marshall Valvestates (w tube)
    - Marshall MG100 head
    - Randall Century 200
    - Randall RH
    - Randall V-max (w tube)
    - okay in general most Randalls, except for the Warhead and new RG combos

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