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    I recorded it today. I use my epi sg with stock emg81/85 into line 6 toneport GX. Feedback is appreciated. my new song I recorded is called Dream Rider, it is here: http://www.myspace.com/musicofron

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    Hmmm, the guitars were pretty cool, very agro sounding, I didn't like the vocals though, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wattage View Post
    Hmmm, the guitars were pretty cool, very agro sounding, I didn't like the vocals though, sorry.
    cool mang! Recording the guitars was very medidative - I did about 5 layers with different settings/pedals on the rectifier and jcm800 modelers. I listen to AIC and Queens of the Stone Age alot so that influences me. I think I could do some better vox - maybe next time when I dont have a cold and I practice a little more. What didnt u like about the vox? cause I am using a lot of vibrato, maybe it sounds a little whiny?. I am using a $7 microphone for vox so that aint in mah favor eithers. Thanks for the feedback!

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    The vox are too set back and effected they need more presence they also sound very pitchy and thus tentative because of those things. Don't hold back on them it makes it sound like you are apologizing for them

    If singing isn't your thing do the tracks instrumental and just play the lead vocal line, no harm in that. You can work the vox up from there until they are ready. That way the song and your skills progress.

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    well said, this is good feedback, much appreciated

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    I uploaded a new mix of my vocals. I figure in a year Ill have my vocals exactly where I want em, but right now they sound ok, but I want to improve em.

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    Great guitar work.
    I don't like the vocals either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by daemon barbeque View Post
    Great guitar work.
    I don't like the vocals either...
    haha

    at least u heard the recent ones and not the ones with effects buried by guitars in the background...would it help if there was twice as many lyrics and less sustained notes. that would make it more punk and rapid fire lyrics.


    ...Im kinda wondering if ya'll dislike the vocals on all my songs. which is fine, Im just thinking there isnt alot I can do with em beyond where they are at right now, right?
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    I would make the best of a bad situation- put the vocals predominant in the mix and with some death metal distortion. Cool stuff, I'm diggin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryjg View Post
    I would make the best of a bad situation- put the vocals predominant in the mix and with some death metal distortion. Cool stuff, I'm diggin it.
    rawkin mang

    I just put a distortion pedal on the vocals

    next recording I do Ill prolly just have a guitar note where the singing would be, until I get my vocals to where I think they are a bit better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Dude View Post
    rawkin mang

    I just put a distortion pedal on the vocals

    next recording I do Ill prolly just have a guitar note where the singing would be, until I get my vocals to where I think they are a bit better
    what kind of mics, pre-amp, and mix are you useing? Im guessing some good gear and a better mix, and some more intensive vocals will work without any distortion.I don't think the actual voice is the problem, well... maybe the projection and energy. i listemned one more time and it would be tons better with better mic preamp/mic and most importantly a better mix. Maybe put more force into the vocals.I think your voclas have a lot of potential ,which is the best thing of all, cause I could ahve a seven thousand dollar mic preamp and a five thousand dollar ribbon mike and I'd still sound like a frog.That said, a good 1000.00-1500.00 tube mic preamp and a good 6-800 mic could make even a frog sound prety good mixed properly..especially with the new vocal processors.BELT out those vocals sometimes. Youve gpot a strong voice and a good voice.
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    Default Re: I have a new song online called Dream Rider. heavy metal chugga chugga

    Cool sounds bro! +1 on the vocals though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryjg View Post
    what kind of mics, pre-amp, and mix are you useing? Im guessing some good gear and a better mix, and some more intensive vocals will work without any distortion.I don't think the actual voice is the problem, well... maybe the projection and energy. i listemned one more time and it would be tons better with better mic preamp/mic and most importantly a better mix. Maybe put more force into the vocals.I think your voclas have a lot of potential ,which is the best thing of all, cause I could ahve a seven thousand dollar mic preamp and a five thousand dollar ribbon mike and I'd still sound like a frog.That said, a good 1000.00-1500.00 tube mic preamp and a good 6-800 mic could make even a frog sound prety good mixed properly..especially with the new vocal processors.BELT out those vocals sometimes. Youve gpot a strong voice and a good voice.
    way cool bro, I appreciate the insights alot

    Next time I record, I am gonna sing better and do a better job using the software. I will be using this compressor:



    which is free online, and I will experiment with the compressor mix after I record...

    I will try using this line 6 preamp model next time, which allows for heavy vocals - the preset for "Downward Spiral" for Line 6 user preset has the "Drive" maxed out (below):



    THanks again;; I really appreciate your insights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yngwiestein View Post
    Cool sounds bro! +1 on the vocals though.
    Im proud of how my guitar recordings are coming along; thanks for the props bro!!

    I uploaded new vocals - I think they sound way better

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    i almost got that same SG but instead went with the SG Custom Prophecy. same pickups and the guitar itself is more metal oriented with 24 frets and that sexy black burst on quilted maple finish
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    It is a blast to plug into a full Marshall stack, crank it up to patent applied for and wail though. Makes you feel like you have a penis so big you have to tuck it into your sock.
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    I totally forgot how totally awesome it sounds to have a killer tube amp cranked. I'm not sure if I'm gonna watch some porn at the moment or just crank my amp again and bust one on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Dude View Post
    I uploaded a new mix of my vocals. I figure in a year Ill have my vocals exactly where I want em, but right now they sound ok, but I want to improve em.
    well its not like YOU have to sing! get jamming with some people and find out who has "the voice" and they can sing while playing
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    It is a blast to plug into a full Marshall stack, crank it up to patent applied for and wail though. Makes you feel like you have a penis so big you have to tuck it into your sock.
    Quote Originally Posted by JOLLY View Post
    I totally forgot how totally awesome it sounds to have a killer tube amp cranked. I'm not sure if I'm gonna watch some porn at the moment or just crank my amp again and bust one on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rashayritto View Post
    i almost got that same SG but instead went with the SG Custom Prophecy. same pickups and the guitar itself is more metal oriented with 24 frets and that sexy black burst on quilted maple finish
    Thats cool bro, I would take the SEXXXY Prophecy over my SG "Custom" too. I wanted EMG81/85s for my metal tendancies and got mine "as new" for $250 which costs as much as pups and installation. Needless to say I am extremely happy with my guitar.

    Quote Originally Posted by rashayritto View Post
    well its not like YOU have to sing! get jamming with some people and find out who has "the voice" and they can sing while playing
    Thats true that I dont have to sing. I am reallllllly busy with school and work, so jam sessions consist of acoustic folk music for me; no metal. I like getting my voice out there cause chicks dig it - Im linked up to facebook myspace account etc; but if I can get for my singing a better grade than C+ that is what I ultimately want. I used to be the singer in bands, but over the last 5yrs I havent sang much ...but my chops are starting to get on par again.

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