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    Question EL 84s

    OK guys, I'm looking for the fattest and cleanest sounding EL 84s....for a reasonable price. What are your opinions?
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    Default Re: EL 84s

    Newer made would be JJ's. Vintage would be GE's.

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    Lots of people seem to like the JJs, so I'll plus-one that.

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    Default Re: EL 84s

    I'm on the JJ bandwagon for affordable good sounding EL84's.

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    okay, im going to say to find some new old stock EL84's. They are somewaht abundant on ebay, and not prohibitevely expensive, although the bidding can be compettitve.

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    Default Re: EL 84s

    for new the jj is good, hard to go wrong with old ones if you dont mind spending the money

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    I've been using Mesa Boogie EL84 tubes in my Budda Superdrive 30 and they are fantastic. Very reasonably priced, $17.99/pair.

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    Default Re: EL 84s

    My friend swears by JJ EL84's (in a Vox AC).

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    If you can find them, the Ei version of the EL-84 is warm but still clean sounding. JJs are darker and not as clear to my ear. My Blues Jr. lost some of its chime when I put JJs in. Don't even get me started on the Mesa EL-84s - that's what sent me off experimenting with everything else.

    The Tube Store has the Ei tubes but you may be able to find them for less dough somewhere else.

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    The JJ's are great for sure. TAD's seemed to have a bit higher headroom when I've tried them. The sweetest sounding new production tubes I've tried though were the Ei's. Don't get me started on the GT's, they are the same Russian tubes as the JJ's, but IMHO if you get the JJ's from Eurotubes they do a MUCH better selecting the best tubes from the batch. I've already had the stock GT's fail in my Dr Z and the replacements are starting to get noisey already....popped some JJ's back in and all of my problems went away.
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    You're going to hear some new threads from me, since I just spent hours hanging with the tube guru experience like nobody here has ever experienced. I spend the whole night getting drunk with Myles Rose.

    He sat me down at a computer going over many graphs of tube stats. It's a night that many people only dream of.

    I asked him about EL-84's, and despite his many years of NOS experience, he said JJ EL-84's are the clear choice. And for you my friend. That's the answer. Look no further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearjoneser View Post
    You're going to hear some new threads from me, since I just spent hours hanging with the tube guru experience like nobody here has ever experienced. I spend the whole night getting drunk with Myles Rose.

    He sat me down at a computer going over many graphs of tube stats. It's a night that many people only dream of.

    I asked him about EL-84's, and despite his many years of NOS experience, he said JJ EL-84's are the clear choice. And for you my friend. That's the answer. Look no further.
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    Heres my Newbie tube question,(after 23 years of playing I switched to tube,yea!). My amp has Sovtek EL-84s, If I switch to say JJ or Mesa etc. do I have to get rebiased?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearjoneser View Post
    You're going to hear some new threads from me, since I just spent hours hanging with the tube guru experience like nobody here has ever experienced. I spend the whole night getting drunk with Myles Rose.

    He sat me down at a computer going over many graphs of tube stats. It's a night that many people only dream of.

    I asked him about EL-84's, and despite his many years of NOS experience, he said JJ EL-84's are the clear choice. And for you my friend. That's the answer. Look no further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    for new the jj is good, hard to go wrong with old ones if you dont mind spending the money
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    The JJ's are not the clearest sounding but they're rich and full with a smooth transition to breakup and a lovely crunch to the distortion.
    Money spent on NOS preamp tubes is really where it's at.
    You'll get more of a change in sound from your preamp tubes than you will from the power tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearjoneser View Post
    You're going to hear some new threads from me, since I just spent hours hanging with the tube guru experience like nobody here has ever experienced. I spend the whole night getting drunk with Myles Rose.

    He sat me down at a computer going over many graphs of tube stats. It's a night that many people only dream of.

    I asked him about EL-84's, and despite his many years of NOS experience, he said JJ EL-84's are the clear choice. And for you my friend. That's the answer. Look no further.
    I've read through many of Myles' reports and that guy has forgotten more data that most of us will ever accumulate in a lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GinoAmes View Post
    Heres my Newbie tube question,(after 23 years of playing I switched to tube,yea!). My amp has Sovtek EL-84s, If I switch to say JJ or Mesa etc. do I have to get rebiased?
    Depends....
    If your using a class AB amp with cathode biasing then no you don't have to,..... however it is a good idea for optimum life and power.

    Some people have a variable resistor installed instead of the fixed resistor (s) so that the tubes can be tweaked.

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    Thanks guys! I guess a call to Eurotubes is in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bungalowbill View Post
    Thanks guys! I guess a call to Eurotubes is in order.
    You might try and find some NOS Mullards first...they retain the sparkle and have a nice meaty tone, but they do the "edge of freakout" thing REALLY well when they're cranked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitfiddle View Post
    You might try and find some NOS Mullards first...they retain the sparkle and have a nice meaty tone, but they do the "edge of freakout" thing REALLY well when they're cranked.
    My amp gets banged around gigging every weekend...otherwise I would go the extra bucks if it was a recording amp.
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