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    I have been playing through the same group of GT75's since 1988!
    In four different Marshall 2x12's I guess you could say there broke in! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnyblu View Post
    I have been playing through the same group of GT75's since 1988!
    In four different Marshall 2x12's I guess you could say there broke in! lol
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    Oh man those must sound nice! What kind of 2x12's are they? 1936s?

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    The small 24" square Jubilee 1966 cab... I'm trying to downsize by up sizing with this 4x12!

    Instead hauling to two cabs and having to set them on something... just roll in a Stereo 4x12... Set both my Marshall heads on top.

    I have been very pleased with the Eminence that I have also...
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    I can't afford a Celestion Blue or even the Eminence version, or a real Tone Tubby... right now...

    But, I got to stick at least one Cannabis Rex in there... on the JTM45 side I guess.

    Anybody else power a Stereo 4x12 with two heads here?
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    They need to be broken in. Once broken in, they get a really nice and creamy sound. The voicing of the speaker will keep you out front in the band mix, which is very important (unless you're a bedroom only player).
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    Quote Originally Posted by That90'sGuy View Post
    They need to be broken in. Once broken in, they get a really nice and creamy sound. The voicing of the speaker will keep you out front in the band mix, which is very important (unless you're a bedroom only player).
    It definitely cuts through the mix but I could never get rid of the nasal-ness. I had mine for 3-4 years and I still hated it....just didn't sound right no matter what I did. Maybe I should have used some fabric softener .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksmith63 View Post
    It definitely cuts through the mix but I could never get rid of the nasal-ness. I had mine for 3-4 years and I still hated it....just didn't sound right no matter what I did. Maybe I should have used some fabric softener .
    You can have it 3-4 years, but it all depends how often you play it, and how loud you play it (ex. do you play in a band in large shows, or for the mirror in your basement?)

    I know sound is subjective, but I am really surprised that they are described as nasal. My biggest problem with them was that they bass could get overpowering if I was not careful.
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    G12-65 Celestions or Warehouse Guitar Speakers ET-65's. You get the best of both . Higher wattage Greenback tones with smooth mids & highs with clarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil_104 View Post
    You can have it 3-4 years, but it all depends how often you play it, and how loud you play it (ex. do you play in a band in large shows, or for the mirror in your basement?)

    I know sound is subjective, but I am really surprised that they are described as nasal. My biggest problem with them was that they bass could get overpowering if I was not careful.
    I would use it at band practice when I didn't feel like hauling the 4x12 around + it was usually hooked up with the 4x12 for 3-4 years of bedroom practice. Both were 8 ohms so it was getting 4x the amount of power each of the other speakers were. Yeah, that's not much but more than most "bedroom" power.

    I don't know man, maybe I just really don't like these speakers. If they still weren't broken, I can't understand how anyone would play through them so much to do so. My tone through one was horrible. I do really like the upgraded versions from Eminence, even right out of the box.

    Also Mesa seems to handpick the best vintage 30s. Maybe they get all the good ones while Randall doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLee View Post
    I think out of the box they are very harsh. Broken in, a little better. Still mid/uppermid heavy though. But then again, so is a guitar!
    Yup, which is why they make you 'cut through' so well - it has a huge focus on where the guitar is supposed to sit in a mix with other instruments IMO. I'm still working on breaking mine in (I've got it in a 1x12 cab) but I like them a lot, they sound like rock guitar to me, especially under distortion.

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    I think the V30's are a great sounding rock and roll speaker. That being said, I love the one in my Supersonic, which is an open back combo, but don't care for them as much in my Marshall 4x12.

    The best tone I've had in a 4 x 12? Celestion g12H30 anniversary speaker x 4. However, I must say the 4x12 sounds quite good with 2 Vintage 30's and 2 g12H30's too, and covers more of the eq spectrum that way.
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    I can't stand the GT 75, way too scooped and I hated them in both cabs I've had them in regardless of the type of amp I ran through it. Personally, I think the V30 is a great spearker, it's loud, it cuts, and stays clear. In a 4x12 I would run it in an X pattern with something else, but for rock you can't really go wrong with a V30

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    Well, I liked the 12t75 loaded 1960 I borrowed (it would have been from the 80s and gigged very hard for at least 10 years)
    This was with a marshall modded valve junior.
    But, I also have a WGS v30 clone, and it was pretty bad at first, but once broken in it sounds Awesome. This is in a big 1x12 1/2 open back. It is now my fav speaker to use. Im actually about to make it a combo.
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    Default Re: Celestion Vintage 30's are horrible...

    I used to be a V30 fan.

    I still don't mind 'em, but The G12K100 is my favorite Celestion these days. Bigger bottom end, smoother on top, but still cuts through the mix with ease.

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    I'd say to put a good 50-100 hours of playing on them & report back but that goes for any new speaker! If you can't "wait" for them to break in then do it with a CD player.

    IMO, the 75's are some fairly craptacular speakers... all bottom & fizzy top with no mids. Great for metal... Maybe 15 years ago I compared my stock marshall 4x12 to my buddies which had 75's that he swapped out for V30's. The '75s had more deep bottom but the V30's had more usable low end, smoother top end... dynamic midrange... good stuff. The 75's were pulled out of my cab shortly after.

    So now I've got a pair of roughly 15 year old V30's in a Rivera 2x12 cab and a pair of GB's that are equally as old in a THD 2x12 cab. There's "better" speakers out there for sure but those combos in those cabs keep me happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB6464 View Post
    G12-65 Celestions or Warehouse Guitar Speakers ET-65's. You get the best of both . Higher wattage Greenback tones with smooth mids & highs with clarity.
    Never liked vintage 30's, never liked 75's either. Currently my 2x12 has a celestion heritage g12-65 with a celestion alnico gold. Great combo (not cheap though).

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    Hey Al,

    Good to se ya buddy.
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    Default Re: Celestion Vintage 30's are horrible...

    Well I had a poor man's Mesa at one point, and it sounded good with a greenie/v30 combo. Not so good with gt75s. I now have a QR, and it sounds better with a WGS Reapers. I suspect it would be better still with a quad of G12t75.

    You change your amp, and you may very well expect to have to change your speakers. They seem to just go hand in hand.
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    Default Re: Celestion Vintage 30's are horrible...

    I have them in my Mesa Maveric 212s, my DC-3 and in a 212 horizontal Recto cab. While I love the EVMs in my Mark Series amps, I do like the V-30s.

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    Default Re: Celestion Vintage 30's are horrible...

    I had a set of broke in 88 G12T75's that I hated. I thought they were way brighter (in the bad way) than V30's.

    Non-broke in V30's are indeed horrible, but after a year or two of abuse they settle in. I always use some sort of beam blocker with V30's too.

    The G12H30 is better than either, in my opinion.

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