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    Default Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Do you think over time the majority of amps will be non-tube and modelers like the Axe-Fx for playing live?

    Anyone play a well setup Axe-Fx live and did not like?

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    I've yet to hear any modeler achieve the tones I prefer and use.

    Not saying it's impossible, just that most modeling programmers seem to think that "high gain" equals full-on uber-compressed massive smushy distortion mid-scooped to all hell.

    So I fall into a niche that gets ignored.

    So I just play boutique tube amps and not really worry it.
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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    how can they take over the planet when they can't make enough for those that order them? (or did they solve that small issue?)

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    They can keep them....

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    All those computer chips ain't got no soul. But yes over time cyberdyne will become totally self aware and Skynet will have authoritarian control over our amp models....IMHO.
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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Eh, I can't wait for legit musicians to use them and have the world thinking that they did entire albums with an actual amp, when in fact they did not.

    Its gonna be a harsh day for some.

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Warheart View Post
    Eh, I can't wait for legit musicians to use them
    have you seen their roster? it's a who's who of awesome guitarists.

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    And???

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by DankStar View Post
    have you seen their roster? it's a who's who of awesome guitarists.
    Yeah, but a large percentage appear to be using just the effect section, not the amp/cab models

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudioWonderland View Post
    Yeah, but a large percentage appear to be using just the effect section, not the amp/cab models
    oooohhhhh

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by grumptruck View Post
    Myess but of course.


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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    IMO, it's L6, not Fractal Audio, that's gonna get people off the tube amp train. They've sold a million freakin' spyders already and they keep chugging away. While most older players went from POS practice amps to lower end tube amps, a similar percentage of the next generation of guitar players will never own a tube amp.

    Where devices like the AxeFX come in to play is that "upgrading" from modelers to tube amps is no longer going to be a given. I'm not alone in going through a number of booteek tube amps (Koch, Soldano, Rivera, Fuchs, Two Rock) and deciding that the AxeFX better meets my needs. Throw in modelers' ability to achieve tones that conventional amps cannot, as well as the ability to "hot rod" your virtual amps without a soldering iron and that's where things get really interesting.

    Another factor that's often overlooked is the radio industry's migration away from tube-based transmitters. As the sale of "big tubes" stops subsidizing the overhead of tube manufacturing, we're gonna see audio tubes get more pricey. As modeling gets better and tube gear gets less affordable, a point where AxeFx-quality modeling is more cost-effective than basic tube gear seems almost inevitable.

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    ......the day there are no longer any tubes.....I'll play acoustic!

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    I don't record and I like to keep things simple at gigs so an AxeFX would be totally useless to me. Also, I doubt they can produce the small range of sounds I use better than, or as good as, the gear I already have. I would be interested in say a 3 channel modelling combo which would give me the standard clean to scream options. Maybe a few effects although I don't generally use them. I was looking at some stuff about the Peavey Vypyr which was saying the floorboard (for LIVE use) gives access to 400 sounds. Who the hell uses 400 sounds at a gig ? A lot of these gizmos compensate for a lack of a few really good sounds by giving you a ridiculous amount of largely unusable ones.

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Jet city and some other company are coming out with a solid state tubes that plugs right into the tube amp pre's. I would probably go this way before modeling...what so special about what happens to a glowing filament inside of a vacuum tube anyway? I'm certain the human mind can dream up a way to replicate that process using dependable technology. If there is enough demand for something, then someone will make it.
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    ^Yeah nothing special.....move along nothing to see....
    Hmm who needs boohtweak?
    Most normal stuff will treat you well....

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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    All I'm saying is eventually technology moves on. we don't write on cave walls and use rotary phones anymore either. I believe someday, somehow, someone will make something as good as a tube. look at the pace of technology in TV's and Cellphones. How does that technology get better and better and guitar amps can't get out of the glowing tube era
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudioWonderland View Post
    Yeah, but a large percentage appear to be using just the effect section, not the amp/cab models
    Marty Friedman at least seems to be using the whole package.
    I remember reading that he got the AxeFX on the last day of one of his album recordings, and that he liked it so much that he re-recorded an entire song with it, which he never does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego View Post
    Marty Friedman at least seems to be using the whole package.
    I remember reading that he got the AxeFX on the last day of one of his album recordings, and that he liked it so much that he re-recorded an entire song with it, which he never does.
    Chris Broderick(sp), new guitarist for megadeth, uses the AxeFX thru Marshall poweramps for live shows and, after seeing them live, awesome results.
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    Default Re: Axe-Fx... taking over the planet or urban myth?

    Tech gotten better?
    Dunno....sound certanly has not!

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