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    Default What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    Looking for some suggestions here on how to use my 6505 60 watt combo without making my daughter wine about how loud it is....I really don't want to buy a smaller amp if I don't have to but I don't want to compromise tone completely either...any suggestions???

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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    using an attenuator seems to be the best idea to me


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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    In my experience attenuators are great for taming the volume at gigs and band rehearsals but don't sound great at bedroom volume. I've found I get better results at low volume by either using the amp's master volume if it has one (pre-amp volume up, master volume down) or by running the amp clean with a dirt pedal in front.

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    welcome to my world - I don't play through big/loud amps when my family is home. I just switch to no amp or vox ac30 amplug w/matching tiny cab.

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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    I understand you like your 6505+, I use high-wattage amps too...

    ...but I use them live with a band at venues.

    At some point you have to concede to the right tool for the job. You'll be happier once you do. A 60-watt amp is not an efficient method of amplifying your sound for playing at home.

    Now, I hate to be that guy who goes around the edge of giving you the advice you're looking for, but I don't think there is really any good way to do what you're trying to do and use a 60-watt 2x12 combo in your house. What Simon F says about attenuators mirrors my experience as well.

    There are a lot of lower-wattage amps out there that do high-gain nowadays - you'll be much happier in the long run with one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sosomething View Post
    I understand you like your 6505+, I use high-wattage amps too...

    ...but I use them live with a band at venues.

    At some point you have to concede to the right tool for the job. You'll be happier once you do. A 60-watt amp is not an efficient method of amplifying your sound for playing at home.

    Now, I hate to be that guy who goes around the edge of giving you the advice you're looking for, but I don't think there is really any good way to do what you're trying to do and use a 60-watt 2x12 combo in your house. What Simon F says about attenuators mirrors my experience as well.

    There are a lot of lower-wattage amps out there that do high-gain nowadays - you'll be much happier in the long run with one of them.

    Best of luck!
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    I'd suggest buying a little practice amp.

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    I will be honest, unless you have thick walls even a 5 watt tube amp is going to be loud.
    just buy this and use headphones, or the optional "cab"
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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    Buy a Peavey Vypyr and set the amp model to 6505. Viola!

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    I read somewhere that a 5 watt amp is about as loud as a trumpet being blared at full volume. While I dont know if that is accurate trumpets can be pretty damn loud in an enclosed space.

    The little Yamaha I bought sounds great. The little roland cubes sound pretty good too.
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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    another option is to 5150-ize your daughter with some earplugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer_of_Fish View Post
    I read somewhere that a 5 watt amp is about as loud as a trumpet being blared at full volume.
    Don't know about any trumpet, but my Marshall Class 5 arrived yesterday. It was almost distressingly loud. My ears have only stopped ringing this morning. I find myself wondering how to turn it down and get the grind I want -- and it's only a five-watter.


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    Pretty much what you suggested Ink.
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    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned an isolation cab yet. I'm gathering up the parts to build mine now. The construction isn't really that hard if you have some basic woodworking skills. I just started working B-shift, and would like to jam a little when I get home. (Post 11pm.) An iso-cab will allow me to crank to my hearts desire, and get true amp distortion.

    Obviously, you'd also need a decent mic and probably a mic-pre and cheap mixing board. Or run into a home stereo.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ball&Chain View Post
    Buy a Peavey Vypyr and set the amp model to 6505. Viola!
    yep. remember its only for practicing.
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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    Assuming we're talking about getting a distorted sound (and there are good reasons to crank an amp that have little to do with anything most of us would call dirt/crunch/etc), you've got four things at work in a loud amp:

    1) preamp tubes distorting
    2) Power Tubes Distorting
    3) Speaker cone(s) distorting -- this varies a lot by speaker model
    4) the way your ears/brain process sounds of differing volumes.

    Dropping the Master and cranking the Pre is one way to get a distorted sound quietly, and can be a GREAT sound, but it's a totally different sound to what that amp will sound like on 11, because you're taking out steps 2,3 and 4 up there.

    Adding an attenuater gives you Step 2 back, but still leaves out 3 and 4.

    An iso box will let you get 1, 2 and 3 into a mic, which then (eventually, at the end of a potentially long signal chain) is played back through headphones or monitors at a low level , which, because of both the mic/mixer/monitors/etc and Step 4, will make it sound different than you're used to hearing when you just crank it normally.

    So if you want it to sound the same, only quieter...you're boned. But you can get some good sounds using those other techniques.
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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    This is the almighty 5150 (6505) we're talking about.
    If dropping master vol doesn't work, would consider that

    Smaller cab is arguably the best solution, scientifically.
    More speakers is more volume. Wattage is second to that.
    Try a 1x12 if you haven't.

    Using an attenuator would probably come after; tied with:

    Using another (lower powered) amp as the power section for your 6505.
    I will use my HT5 power section for amps in the bedroom, though sound color is already being compromised at this point.

    Ditching the amp seems rash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reload in 5 View Post
    I will be honest, unless you have thick walls even a 5 watt tube amp is going to be loud.
    just buy this and use headphones, or the optional "cab"
    Impressive.

    I'll add a +1 on the modeling route. My home practice setup consists of Amplitube on on iPhone. I run it through a small mixer along with my laptop so I can play with the songs. Works great.

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    The way I tame amps for home use is by running an Alesis Nanoverb in the FX loop.
    It's not exactly attenuation, but it does choke off some volume while adding mild reverb or any other effect. Use any outboard unit that has a 'send/mix/output' section. It allows you to have a second master volume, and the input knob lets you dial in the signal sensitivity.

    Other than that, a small modeling amp or floorboard/headphones is something to get.
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    You could also probably snag a PODXT pretty cheap. 100 bucks or less. Sounds fantastic for practicing imo. Great with headphones. I think the metal shop add on comes with a 5150 model.

    You could also run it into the effects loop return of the 6505 and dial in the volume to taste.

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    Default Re: What's really the best way to "bedroom-ize" my peavey 6505+???

    You can't do anything.
    You want to play a 60 watt amp in a house, and not bother the person in the next room, and not Compromise tone "completely".?
    There is nothing you can do. Unless you need an attenuator for stage also, why bother, spend that money on a small amp.
    You will be much happier with a small amp......and they will STILL hear that, loud, in the next room.
    There is nothing you can do, unless you want to play through headphones.
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