Likes Likes:  0
Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

  1. #1
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Does anyone know if a Dimarzio 5 way multipole EP1112 is the same as a Fender 5-way super switch?
    They look identical as far as the amount of terminals and where they're located.

    I used a Dimarzio wiring diagram (with 2 DMZ humbuckers) and it's monstrously off!
    I checked the wiring about 4 or 5 times.

    I do have the switch facing the right direction.

  2. #2
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    they are identical
    as I know.
    If you need help with wiring just let me know
    BTW: on the dimarzio diagrams there are always some stuf not connected (they assume you have a knowledge that some stuff should be conected.
    give me diagram and pictures of your work
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  3. #3
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by KnifeR View Post
    they are identical
    as I know.
    If you need help with wiring just let me know
    BTW: on the dimarzio diagrams there are always some stuf not connected (they assume you have a knowledge that some stuff should be conected.
    give me diagram and pictures of your work
    here's an email I sent to Dimarzio tech support:

    "Hello,
    I used this wiring diagram from the Dimarzio website:

    http://www.dimarzio.com/sites/defaul...1112series.pdf
    (2 humbuckers, 1 Volume, 1 Tone, 5 Way super switch)
    I have a PafPro in the neck and a Breed in the bridge.
    It's a Fender Blacktop Strat (H/H)

    The results I got are all wrong.
    I'm wondering if the switch I used is compatible with the Dimarzio diagram?
    I used a Fender 5-WAY SUPER SWITCH
    P.N. 0992251000
    It appears to be a standard 5 way switch with 2 rows of terminals.

    I checked the wiring about 5 times- and it's always the same.

    According to the Dimarzio wiring diagram, it's supposed to be:
    #1- neck
    #2- bridge/neck (outside coils series)
    #3- bridge & neck
    #4- bridge/neck (inside coils series)
    #5- bridge

    Instead, this is what I get:
    #1- neck split
    #2- neck split
    #3- bridge series/neck split
    #4- something out of phase ?
    #5- bridge

    I feel like there is an obvious problem that I am missing- is it an incompatible switch?

    Thank You,
    Kurt"





  4. #4
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Damn- I tried to change back the color to a lighter color and I can't do it (fast enough)!

  5. #5
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    I just opened it up and noticed that I forgot to ground out a terminal on the volume pot.
    I know that would screw up the volume pot, but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't interfere with the switch wiring!?

  6. #6
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    5 way is wrong
    give me 5 min
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  7. #7
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by KnifeR View Post
    5 way is wrong
    give me 5 min
    WOW- Thanks!

  8. #8
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    as the color codding is
    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support...ic=color_codes

    the diagram should be
    2 - white starts to green ends in both pickups (norths do nothing)
    4 - red starts black ends in both (souths do nothing)
    so the diagram of 5 way is:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Dimarzio.jpg 
Views:	7735 
Size:	50.2 KB 
ID:	42068

    PAID BY LIKE
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  9. #9
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    SO:
    Bridge red should be connected to:
    Pot - 1, 3, 4 in first line (HOT)
    Bridge white and black:
    Pot - 2 in first line (HOT) pot - 4 in second (ground)
    green you see

    Neck:
    red - pots 3 4 5 in first (hot)
    wh and bk - like in bridge but to upstairs
    green you see.

    remember (WH and BK) together in dimarzio pickup only!!!!!!!!
    dark blue on 5 way is neutral connected only to second pot in first and 4th in second (once HOT once ground as you see).
    give me an info if its work.

    BTW Iam absent from wed. to fr. this week (have a conference in another country).
    Sorry for my eng. - not my native.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  10. #10
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by KnifeR View Post
    SO:
    Bridge red should be connected to:
    Pot - 1, 3, 4 in first line (HOT)
    Bridge white and black:
    Pot - 2 in first line (HOT) pot - 4 in second (ground)
    green you see


    Neck:
    red - pots 3 4 5 in first (hot)
    wh and bk - like in bridge but to upstairs
    green you see.

    remember (WH and BK) together in dimarzio pickup only!!!!!!!!
    dark blue on 5 way is neutral connected only to second pot in first and 4th in second (once HOT once ground as you see).
    give me an info if its work.

    BTW Iam absent from wed. to fr. this week (have a conference in another country).
    Sorry for my eng. - not my native.

    Wait- That wiring isn't for the combination I chose - is it?
    Isn't that a generic wiring?

    I wanted:

    1) neck
    2)- Neck split(south coil)/bridge split(north coil) in "series"
    3)- neck/bridge
    4)- neck split(north coil)/bridge split(south coil) in series
    5)- bridge

  11. #11
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    ok moment
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  12. #12
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by KnifeR View Post
    ok moment

    You're a GOD!

  13. #13
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    sorry bu it seams that the diagram from dimarzio is good.
    you need to give me pictures of your wiring (elek box) many to check them
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  14. #14
    Administrator Mincer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Tampa Bay area, Florida, USA
    Posts
    19,616

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    I have used this wiring too:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	HHInOutSplit5WORKS.jpg 
Views:	4196 
Size:	71.5 KB 
ID:	42072
    Dave, Ambassador/Writer/Artist for Seymour Duncan

    My Guitar, Gear, and Music Webpage

    Gear pics and more on my Instagram.

  15. #15
    Ultimate Tone Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    New England
    Posts
    468

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    I have used this wiring too:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	HHInOutSplit5WORKS.jpg 
Views:	4196 
Size:	71.5 KB 
ID:	42072
    Thanks- but I'm assuming (?) the two coils are wired in parallel, where I want them wired together in series.

    However, I think my problem may be some internal problem with one of my pickups, which I might have modded too much. );

  16. #16
    Administrator Mincer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Tampa Bay area, Florida, USA
    Posts
    19,616

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    Hmm, maybe they are in that diagram...If 2 & 4 are wired in parallel, it is more stratty, and in series it would be more like a very spread-apart humbucker, right?
    Dave, Ambassador/Writer/Artist for Seymour Duncan

    My Guitar, Gear, and Music Webpage

    Gear pics and more on my Instagram.

  17. #17
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    dimarzio diagram is good if you have dimarzio pickups.
    if not look at the SD color codding that i gave you.
    should work.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  18. #18
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    to solve this problem show me pictures of your guitar
    elek box.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

  19. #19
    Tone Member KnifeR's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    168

    Default Re: 5 way (24 terminal) multipole switch confusion

    tell me which pickups you are using (dimarzio or maybe seymore??). Can be that the wires collors are wrong
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Best Regards:
    Peter (KnifeR)

    RazemRock - let's create the community for Guitar Geeks

    Facebook Funpage
    YouTube
    Blog

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •