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    I bought my first high gain Van Halen style map.a 6505. Played a few guitasr throuhg it, \.a few dedicated extreme metal guitars, but I STILL didnt get it.
    Tonight my best frinds..I tried a hard ash guitars wiht a Seymour Duncan EVH'78.
    My frinds..I am born again! I see!I wash the feet of Seymour Duncan!
    This is it, noyt that I dont wan't a dual recto, cause thats what I want more than anyhitng ese in the whole world.
    Short version- a '78 through a 65650 amp is the geratws metal tone besides maybe a Dual recto that there is!
    A '78 through a 6505! SUBLIME!!!!
    Last edited by MetalManiac; 04-22-2014 at 10:36 PM.
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    Sound demos or it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    I bought my first high gain Van Halen style map
    High gain maps? What is this I don't even
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    T.i gotta say though, the learning curve in a high gain amp LIKE THIS is pretty steep, for me, anyhow, who hasn't ever had such a an amp . Plus its cranked, so there isn't any faking it. Each time i go out on this rig, I get better and better at taming the fire belching beast, yet getting it still to take me where I need to go. Surprisingly, if I get close r to the amp,on top of it, it behaves better than If I try and run away, or hide the guitar so it wont squeal. Im really getting the hang of making this thing not squeal, but it takes practice...lots of working with the volume knob o\f the guitar.
    There does seem to be a spot on the guitar..about the 13th fret with the A-d-g-b strings where the feedback/squeal is just uncontrollable..so far nothing to do but turn volume all the way down fast as i can and try and find a little better spot next to amp.. and I had 16 beers, plus some of this is unlistenable.
    Eventually I'll have a Dual Recto and this 6505, and run both together through stereo 2x12 EV12l's.
    Last edited by MetalManiac; 04-23-2014 at 01:49 AM.
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    For a time in the 90's I had a 5150 and used a Custom Custom in my Frankenstrat (alder, maple neck/FB). Now that was some righteous tone right there. That rig was great, one of the best I've had.

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    what's with this mesa talk when you have those old sick marshalls?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DankStar View Post
    what's with this mesa talk when you have those old sick marshalls?!
    They don't give him the microphonic squeal he's looking for.
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    Squealer.........

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    Sweet rig Jer
    I am so jealous

    get a skinny neck shread stick
    "krank" it all to ten
    blister some ears
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    Imagine how good it will sound when you tune your guitar!
    "Technique is really the elimination of the unneccessary ... it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to acheive the smooth flow of energy and intent"
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    Good on ya, Jer! Rock out!

    man, I can smell those 16 beers on that first post
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    Dude, you don't need a 78 to make the 6505 sound good. It's a great amp. I used to play one at Guitar Center when I would go there to try out Les Pauls. I chose that amp just because it was setup away from everyone else and had a 2x12 under it. I remember thinking that it sounded pretty good but didn't "get it" at first. However, every time I would doodle my solo stuff with it (not bragging about my guitar skills or anything), someone would pass by and tell me it sounded real good. I guess I wasn't really hearing what they were hearing, but I'm also accustomed to Bogners and stuff, so I did a real sit down with the amp and started dialing it in. After a while I started to get it. It's not a refined sound in any way. It's not going to give you the woody tonewood sound of your guitar or much nuance, but it really does have a great rock/metal lead and rhythm tone. It sounds kinda scooped and bassy but I love the way the lead tone cuts through. Really cool amp. Congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetalManiac View Post
    I bought my first high gain Van Halen style map.a 6505. Played a few guitars through it, \.a few dedicated extreme metal guitars, but I STILL didnt get it.
    Tonight my best friends..I tried a hard ash guitars with a Seymour Duncan EVH'78.
    My friends..I am born again! I see!I wash the feet of Seymour Duncan!
    This is it, not that I dont wan't a dual recto, cause thats what I want more than anything else in the whole world.
    Short version- a '78 through a 65650 amp is the geratws metal tone besides maybe a Dual recto that there is!
    A '78 through a 6505! SUBLIME!!!!


    Probably not your kinda music . . . BUT . . . go to YouTube, and search for :


    ' ...Black Stone Cherry, Mannish Boy, live in Bonn, Germany...'


    I got a 5150 based on that one clip only !!!

    YES, the amp can do metal . . . but is EXCELS at Hard Rock 101%


    MY old mid-90's block letter 5150 LOVES my Duncan A2P's and cab with Emi Swamp Thangs !

    Can not wait to see what my Black Outs will do to this amp, wink-wink !
    Tele, SG, LP Jr, '76 Ibanez Artist & Tokai LS92 + FUZZ boxes into a '66 AB165 Bassman & 2X12 (55Hz Greenbacks) / '73 Orange OR120 & 2X12 (V30 & SwampThang) / Orange Thunderverb 50 & PPC212 / Marshall Vintage Modern 50 & 2X12 Genz Benz g-Flex / Laney Klipp / Laney AOR Pro Tube 100


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