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    Default Re: Why do so many people have huge amps?

    Because some people actually play outside their house.
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    I had the Bugera 6262 for a short period.. took pedals terrible IMO but the gain on it was killer when EQ'd right. Just was not my cup of tea as I use pedals for fuzz and dirt. 120 watts and it sounded like it jeez it was very loud
    Rly? Lol, to me it sounds SOOO quiet through the inefficient stock speakers (vs. a Celestion g12-65 closed back 4x12)... Actually found it quite useable for whisper-quiet levels w/ everything set to "1"

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    Default Re: Why do so many people have huge amps?

    tiny amps sound bad for heavy rock and are as loud as small amps decibel wise when you crank either up. modelers cannot duplicate fuzzy complex distorted heavy classic rock tones as well. Also not all PA systems are gonna give the tone you want your audience to hear at that volume.

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    Well one reason some guys have huge amps are they can afford to pay someone to move all their $h!t for them. Unless your playing a arena or out door festival your not going to need to be that loud and most likely your going to be micd up. The band I play for now the Drummer has a Peavy 5150 in his studio that I only use when I have too. Why? Because it's honestly too loud and too much for most gigs. I'm not against huge amps but only if their really needed and don't mind carrying it.
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    You should see the size of some of the tiny rooms I played with my stack. Back in the day it was my only amp so my only option. We played in some big rooms also so I needed the power.

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    You should see the size of some of the tiny rooms I played with my stack. Back in the day it was my only amp so my only option. We played in some big rooms also so I needed the power.
    You sound like a keyboardist I play with. He only has one amp and it's huge. Usually needs someone to help him move it. He says it has wheels but I've never seen him use them.
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    I play big, loud amps because they make me happy. In fact, I play with 8x12 in my home studio at times (on 1/2 power setting with my MkIII and cabs side by side). Anyone who has ever tried it knows 8 12s sound even better 4. And I love excess in all of my hobbies. Every single note becomes part of your subconscious when projected with such force and depth. There is nothing I love more than feeling the bass of single notes on the high side of the fretboard hit me in the chest.
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    most heavy rock bands that I have seen use half stacks, even in small rooms

    I think that it is innovative to use the axefxII live, when I saw Periphery live, but that does not generate the tone I need

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    I think it has a lot to do with technology moving in two different directions. The standard of live rock performance for years has been at least one 100w amp and at least one 412. Live sound is so incredibly advanced compared to what it was in the late 60's. Guitarists didn't have the luxury of micing up their little sweet sounding 112 tube amps at nearly every gig. In most cases today any show that is so big that you need a massive amp, you're getting mic'd anyway.

    That being said, I'm not a huge fan of 412's and really loud amps. A 212 is all the sound I could imagine wanting.


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    Dunno...the less I have to carry the better. I don't ever use super distorted heavy tones, so I don't need that kind of power. Everything is either miked or direct to the pa while I use IEMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
    Because some people actually play outside their house.
    Yep. I play a lot of worship stuff in Churches,some where a 4/12 and 100 watt head can get over powered by the CROWD! I keep the big cab and one high wattage head for those gigs to keep things tight and be able to cut through the mix.
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    One day I will be running a Tiny Terror through this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agileguy_101 View Post
    Because some people actually play outside their house.
    A high wattage combo is plenty loud with good speakers anyways... I never understood some bands bringing half stack 4x12s to a bar gig or even a gig where you are mic'd

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    Rly? Lol, to me it sounds SOOO quiet through the inefficient stock speakers (vs. a Celestion g12-65 closed back 4x12)... Actually found it quite useable for whisper-quiet levels w/ everything set to "1"
    I found mine with stock speakers soooo loud! and i'm not a quiet player I have 2 heavy stoner rock type bands.

    Probably a **** ton louder with better speakers though for sure. I attach my Mesa 5:50 express with the internal Black shadow speaker and a Traynor Darkhorse 2x12 with greenbacks and click on a fuzz and it's a loud mofo for only 3 12" speakers! Thank Mesa for that contour knob
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    I keep two different models of speaker in my 4x12, so I can choose between them or use both, depending on the sound I want. I also like having the amp at a comfortable height. Plus, I'd rather push a 4x12 on casters than carry a 60-lb. combo. And, there's no law saying you have to use a 100-watt head with it. Put a lunchbox head on it, if you want. Put a small rack on it and run it in stereo, with clean and dirty sides in one cabinet. Also, I'm not a sound guy, so I'm genetically engineered not to care what they have to go through.

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    I see no point in huge amps and stacks... it's all an image with people

    "oh well Peter Green used a stack and Jimmy Page so I must have one too"

    the whole thing is stupid and bunk I have played combos that have had more low end and overall volume then half stacks before and everytime I see a band playing in a bar with Mesa Boogie Dual Rec stacks or JCM 2000 stacks I just think "stupid".

    But this is just me and my opinion so do whatever makes you happy , this is just how I feel about this matter.
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    ^ So your Traynor head with a 2x12 is okay, but two more drivers crosses the line? What are you doing with that second driver that you couldn't do with one? Quickly, now -- justify your choices, or other people will get to call you stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Pigbacon View Post
    ^ So your Traynor head with a 2x12 is okay, but two more drivers crosses the line? What are you doing with that second driver that you couldn't do with one? Quickly, now -- justify your choices, or other people will get to call you stupid.
    I don't gig with the traynor. I gig with a 1x12 Mesa boogie.
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