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    Hi. Do you guys know of a string tension meter specifically for guitar? I'm not sure they're available on the market. I own a tension meter for bike wheel spokes. They sell tension meters for tennis racket strings. But I've never seen one for guitar. If not, do you guys have any ideas about a tension meter on the market that you think would give accurate readings on the guitar strings?
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    Default Re: String tension meter?

    when I worked at the Textile Mill, we had a tensile meter for threads and such

    but I haven't seen one in almost 20 years
    I left there in '98


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    look here
    these look right
    https://www.checkline.com/tension_meters
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    Awesome! Thanks for your help. Those look like they'd be pretty accurate. It says they're even designed to be calibrated to what you're measuring.

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    they are
    they are awesome expensive as well
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    Default Re: String tension meter?

    They are called fingers.

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    Default Re: String tension meter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICTGoober View Post
    They are called fingers.
    Thanks for your input Goober. For some reason I'm having trouble finding the digital display on my fingers so I can get a precise measurement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    they are
    they are awesome expensive as well
    Oh noo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    Hi. Do you guys know of a string tension meter specifically for guitar? I'm not sure they're available on the market. I own a tension meter for bike wheel spokes. They sell tension meters for tennis racket strings. But I've never seen one for guitar. If not, do you guys have any ideas about a tension meter on the market that you think would give accurate readings on the guitar strings?
    Just out of interest. Why do you need it? There's plenty of information on internet about tension of string gauge/tuning/scale combinations. D'addario.com for instance. I don't think there's going to be practical difference between different makers...

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    To have definitive proof that the string length outside the sounding portion adds to the tension of the playable string in the scale length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    To have definitive proof that the string length outside the sounding portion adds to the tension of the playable string in the scale length.
    You want to use accurate and precise measurement to solve an ongoing dispute between musicians? That will NEVER work!
    I hope you just want to know for your own knowledge (and that you will report your results because I would like to know as well) because if you're looking to actually convince others it is doomed to failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Locher View Post
    You want to use accurate and precise measurement to solve an ongoing dispute between musicians? That will NEVER work!
    I hope you just want to know for your own knowledge (and that you will report your results because I would like to know as well) because if you're looking to actually convince others it is doomed to failure.
    Haha you are so right! So far I believe I am pointed in the right direction with my understanding of string tension and building sets. But it would be nice to have precise measurements for my own understanding... And maybe to troll others

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    Yeah he's right
    Just ask the Bigfoot enthusiasts
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    I can prove it. The nut and saddles don't divide the strings tension wise, only pitch wise.

    http://m.wikihow.com/Calculate-Tension-in-Physics The 6th example

    It talks about a rope brought under tension by weights of different values and divided by a pulley and says the tension is identical on both sections.

    The nut doesn't provide enough friction to divide the string tension wise. You can only tune and maintain tuning stability while playing if the string moves freely through the nut.

    Tension is defined by overall length for each string of ball to tuner, not scale length.
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    Default Re: String tension meter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    I can prove it. The nut and saddles don't divide the strings tension wise, only pitch wise.

    http://m.wikihow.com/Calculate-Tension-in-Physics The 6th example

    It talks about a rope brought under tension but divided by a pulley and says the tension is identical on both sections.

    The nut doesn't provide enough friction to divide the string tension wise. You can only tune and maintain tuning stability while playing if the string moves freely through the nut.

    Tension is defined by overall length for each string of ball to tuner, not scale length.
    I think you're right with this. When you're playing, you always bend the string, so wouldn't that mean longer scale would actually have less tension fretted than shorter scale if overall lenght of string stays the same?

    Because longer part of the string would be between nut and saddle.

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