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    Wow @ the first video! Way to end the discussion before it has even begun, and with grace and style to boot! Awesome!
    Thanks. It took a lot of research, work and several sets of eardrums...
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    Scholz would not allow the "Boston" tone to be dialled out of the Rockman line of gear even though guitar tones had drastically changed in the 90's.
    That's odd - SR&D started in the 80s. Majority of the product line was designed in the 80's as well.

    All of my units (Sustainor, Distortion Generator, Stereo Chorus, Stereo Echo, MIDI Octopus) are copyright mid-80s.

    Tom sold SR&D to Dunlop in '95. You sure you got the right decade?
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    I have no problem seeing why Rockman faded away in the 90s. It is a unique tone, and it isn't going to be for everybody. Whilst throwing people's jobs away probably shouldn't be considered commendable, I have to admire Scholz a little bit for sticking to his artistic vision instead of becoming a business man. Not that it matters for anybody interested in the Rockman in 2017, besides that you can't get them any more. Then again, those tones are all over the 80s, and to be fair I think there is a bit of variation between artists: Def Leppard, WASP, Judas Priest, Joe Satriani, ZZ Top, and those are just on top of my head. And, of course, the clean tones on the Dokken records.

    Speaking of Slayer and Pantera: I cannot verify this, but according to Wikipedia a Rockman was actually used for Megadeth's Peace Sells record. If that is true (I have to listen to those tones again) it could at least go into thrash territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PFDarkside View Post
    I thought our band sounded awesome when we got one of the first Spyders and used the Recto and Insane settings. The recordings actually sound awesomely terrible.

    Back then you could buy JCM900s for a song, I wish he had gotten one of those instead...
    I am sure some of the early Pods must have been used on albums that are considered iconic in the right circles, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LLL View Post
    That's odd - SR&D started in the 80s. Majority of the product line was designed in the 80's as well.

    All of my units (Sustainor, Distortion Generator, Stereo Chorus, Stereo Echo, MIDI Octopus) are copyright mid-80s.

    Tom sold SR&D to Dunlop in '95. You sure you got the right decade?
    Like I said the company could not keep up in the 90's halfway through the decade he sold the company. I do have the ex- executive's cell number if you would like to call him. Of course, you know more about the company from going to Wikipedia than a guy that worked at the company. I am sure he would love to bask in your knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Securb View Post
    Of course, you know more about the company from going to Wikipedia than a guy that worked at the company. I am sure he would love to bask in your knowledge.
    That was never inferred. Presumptuous much?

    Furthermore, the name-dropping to compensate doesn't impress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirion View Post
    I am sure some of the early Pods must have been used on albums that are considered iconic in the right circles, though.
    Now there's an interesting thought: what hit albums featured the early Pods...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirion View Post
    I am sure some of the early Pods must have been used on albums that are considered iconic in the right circles, though.
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    Now there's an interesting thought: what hit albums featured the early Pods...?
    Early PODs? I bet not too many big ones. Amp Farm? A ton. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the "recto" sounds of the copycat post-grunge bands were Amp Farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLL View Post

    Furthermore, the name-dropping to compensate doesn't impress.
    I don't remember dropping a name. Not sure how good your reading comprehension is. All I did was reference where I got the information from. If I got the information from Wikipedia, I would have written: "I read on Wikipedia...". I just happened to work with someone that was there at the time. I thought it would be nice to share some first-hand information about the history of the company. If it is not of interest to you or you find better information on Wikipedia, more power to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLL View Post
    You can EQ out the "rockman" out of the Rockman... pre and post EQing.

    For example, Def Leppard's Hysteria was almost 100% Rockman on guitars:

    http://www.guitarworld.com/interview...pards-hysteria
    That's pretty much the album I think of when I think of a rockman. None of the clean parts were strummed on that album, Mutt Lange had them play each note individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LLL View Post
    You can EQ out the "rockman" out of the Rockman... pre and post EQing.

    For example, Def Leppard's Hysteria was almost 100% Rockman on guitars:

    http://www.guitarworld.com/interview...pards-hysteria
    That's pretty much the album I think of when I think of a rockman. None of the clean parts were strummed on that album, Mutt Lange had them play each note individually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vasshu the humanoid typhoon View Post
    I think I had a Rockman for a few days before modding it...haha that tunnelvision sound buggged me!
    Tut-tut, your eighties credentials are declining by the day! Oh well, at least you had one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Voltage View Post
    That's pretty much the album I think of when I think of a rockman.
    Then you're one of a very few.

    Third Stage by Boston... now that sounds unquestionably like Rockman gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirion View Post
    Tut-tut, your eighties credentials are declining by the day! Oh well, at least you had one!
    Yeah, ain't that a shame...
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    Billy Gibbons used Rockman, right? What album(s)?

    (hell, didn't everybody use it at some time?)

    ..then again, Billy is notorious for laying the BBQ BS on thick.

    Satriani comes to mind too for Rockman
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    I believe the Rev was using it during this period:

    Romans 3:23; 6:23; 5:8; 10:13; 10:9-10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirion View Post
    I cannot verify this, but according to Wikipedia a Rockman was actually used for Megadeth's Peace Sells record. If that is true (I have to listen to those tones again) it could at least go into thrash territory.
    Chris used a Rockman into a JCM800 while Dave plugged straight in. Based on how thick their tone was, I'd wager both heads were loaded with 6550s. If you listen to The Conjuring it's pretty obvious who is playing which part. Dave's tone is pretty basic JCM800, while the ratty, overly saturated sound is Chris.
    Quote Originally Posted by crusty philtrum View Post
    And that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.

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    Flying In A Blue Dream? No kiddin.

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    Tut-tut, your eighties credentials are declining by the day! Oh well, at least you had one!
    Haha well I survived them
    Now plug your curls into a friggin MIDI port
    Gehehe.

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    They are long gone, I am afraid: as much fun as the whole Jake E. Lee thing was, it was uncongenial to musicology. Basically I sold out, and for what? (That being said, once I get home for Christmas and can set up my new rig I will have more MIDI ports than ever in it!)

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