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    Anyone know if there is any sort of lock-nut version of this?


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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    I've never seen one, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    I've never seen one, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    The closest you can come is probably having a locking nut behind the nut proper, like some old Kahler systems used to have.

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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    There was a company called "lock-n-roll" that was all over the mags and forums a few years ago with a compensated Floyd locking nut, but they seem to have went MIA and the product never came out as far as I know.

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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirion View Post
    The closest you can come is probably having a locking nut behind the nut proper, like some old Kahler systems used to have.
    My old 80s Charvel was like that also with the Jackson floyd. I'm really glad they don't do that anymore, but then again that would make it possible to convert to the EB-nut.
    No more difference there is in the break-point positions on the EB-nut, I'd think they could just slightly alter the OFR nut somehow but still use basically the same squared clamps.

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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    Quote Originally Posted by XSSIVE View Post
    There was a company called "lock-n-roll" that was all over the mags and forums a few years ago with a compensated Floyd locking nut, but they seem to have went MIA and the product never came out as far as I know.
    Thanks. I'm not sure how I missed it but this is the first time I've heard of that company.

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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    Like an Earvana nut for Floyds. Very cool. Doesn't seem to retail anywhere, though?
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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    AFAIK, there was an Earvana for Floyds.

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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    I guess that would take some careful board-shaving to fit in the slot if one was doing it aftermarket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave74 View Post
    I guess that would take some careful board-shaving to fit in the slot if one was doing it aftermarket.
    The Earvana? No, they had a shelf design.
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    Looks like it "lipped-over" the edge of the board,,,,,,,but that creates a problem. (probably why it never caught-on) Height-adjustment

    If you had the exact fret-height it was designed for then it could work fine, but if your frets were shorter then you'd have to endure extra clearance over the first fret. Or you'd just have to shave-down both the slot and the edge of the board,,,which would be a pain for most people.

    If you had taller frets and then shimmed-up the nut then there would be a gap under the nut's lip, like between the board and lip.
    Now that maybe wouldn't be an issue but it would create a fulcrum effect (if the gap wasn't filled with another shim of some sort)and then that could contribute to the nut's mounting screws eventually developing wiggle, which would eventually get worse over time.

    Also, just by looking it appears that the Earvana and EB have slightly different "optimum" compensations,,,,,,,which only makes sense if they're optimized for different gauges/tunings/tensions. ????

    I'm betting they realized this after devoting much work lol, then realized it wasn't likely to catch-on because of that,,,,,and because the metal crowd is so varied now on their choices of tunings/gauges/tensions.

    I realize that you could still adjust the saddles,,,,,,,,,, but optimum is optimum and not-optimum is not optimum lol.
    So maybe it somewhat defeats the purpose when all is said and done.
    Anyways, they probably "optimized" them for E-standard with 9-42,,,,which most metal guys don't even use anymore.
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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    Quote Originally Posted by dave74 View Post
    Anyone know if there is any sort of lock-nut version of this?



    it seems that this company is finally taking orders, personally I was waiting since years ago a product like to be sold in the market

    I will buy a couple now before it gets sued by Music Man like Earvana or Buzz Feiten basically all have the same principles

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    I've never had any issues with just using a zero fret and locking tuners. You don't have to keep hitting your hand on the nut, you don't have any intonation issues, opened strings sound fretted, no tuning issues, lower action at the nut, and there are probably a few more plusses. The only reason they aren't popular is the association with crappy budget guitars from days gone by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrJackson View Post
    it seems that this company is finally taking orders, personally I was waiting since years ago a product like to be sold in the market

    I will buy a couple now before it gets sued by Music Man like Earvana or Buzz Feiten basically all have the same principles

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    Preorders for April... hmm... last I checked, it was May

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    Yikes. That web design, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adieu View Post
    Preorders for April... hmm... last I checked, it was May

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    I just got a reply from the company, they are out of stock now, they will ship again in the second semester ( July-August)

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    Default Re: Compensated locking nut?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex_Rocker View Post
    AFAIK, there was an Earvana for Floyds.

    *EDIT* Found it!

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    I wanted this to be commercial for years, but the lawsuit screwed everything

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