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    I'm starting to really like flats.

    Have used GHS Bass Boomers on all of my basses except my '69 Gibson EB-1 and my '69 Fender Mustang (those have Rotosound tapewounds--a different animal) for many years.

    When I converted my '87 MIJ Squier Jazz to fretless (swapped in a fretless MIJ Fender Precision neck), my tech urged me to go flats (as did people here). I went with the LaBella Original 1954s (aka the Jamerson set) in 52-110 and can't believe how much I like them.

    I'm waiting for another set that I'll use on my MIM Fender Jazz. I'll keep RW on the rest of them, but really liking these on the fretless.
    '69 Fender Mustang bass
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    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
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    Default Re: Never thought I'd say this

    Quote Originally Posted by dg27 View Post
    I'm starting to really like flats.

    Have used GHS Bass Boomers on all of my basses except my '69 Gibson EB-1 and my '69 Fender Mustang (those have Rotosound tapewounds--a different animal) for many years.

    When I converted my '87 MIJ Squier Jazz to fretless (swapped in a fretless MIJ Fender Precision neck), my tech urged me to go flats (as did people here). I went with the LaBella Original 1954s (aka the Jamerson set) in 52-110 and can't believe how much I like them.

    I'm waiting for another set that I'll use on my MIM Fender Jazz. I'll keep RW on the rest of them, but really liking these on the fretless.
    +1

    LaBella flats are amazing. longcat and I scored a Yamaha fretless P-copy off Craigslist over the weekend, and I'll be throwing a set of LaBella flats on there as soon as I can find some (along with a Gotoh 201).
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    I've been wanting (and will eventually) throw flats on my second bass for a completely different sound/feel. Glad you like them! And I agree - on fretless it's a no brainer to me.
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    I like the LaBellas, but not in that gauge. I use the 760FL set (.043-.104). I currently have the 5 string set on my fretless.


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    I have always preferred the heaviest gauge I can find, regardless of brand.
    '69 Fender Mustang bass
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    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg27 View Post
    I have always preferred the heaviest gauge I can find, regardless of brand.
    You lose all nuance that way. I bend notes and solo. Heavy strings are too clumsy. Plus you lose all the snap when you pluck them hard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidRavenMoon View Post
    You lose all nuance that way. I bend notes and solo. Heavy strings are too clumsy. Plus you lose all the snap when you pluck them hard.
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    No, actually you lose all cujones with light gauge strings.

    We've obviously got very different approaches and objectives. I don't bend, don't solo, and don't pluck.

    I can agree to disagree.
    '69 Fender Mustang bass
    '69 Gibson EB-1
    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
    '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
    '14 Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg27 View Post
    No, actually you lose all cujones with light gauge strings.

    We've obviously got very different approaches and objectives. I don't bend, don't solo, and don't pluck.

    I can agree to disagree.
    No I get a very heavy tone from light strings. Itís all in the technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidRavenMoon View Post
    No I get a very heavy tone from light strings.
    According to you: this is a subjective assessment.
    '69 Fender Mustang bass
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    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
    '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
    '14 Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg27 View Post
    No, actually you lose all cujones with light gauge strings.
    According to you: this is a subjective assessment.

    See how that works?


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    We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

    I prefer heavy gauge strings possibly because I started on string bass.

    What may be a "heavy tone" to you might not be so to others.
    '69 Fender Mustang bass
    '69 Gibson EB-1
    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
    '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
    '14 Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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    Default Re: Never thought I'd say this

    I tried flats on a ss MIJ P bass...loved them! Gave a warmth and smoothness that really worked well for blues and classic rock.

    For some reason I thought flats were only for old school jazz cats or something. I was wrong!
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    I just put a set of Ti flats my eldest son bought me for Fathers Day on a bass I was going to sell. This is my first set of flats and it has transformed this bass, it feels, plays and sounds so slick now.... loving them.

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    Flats on a P is the "OG" sound. Jamerson, Duck Dunn, Chuck Rainey, & so on.

    When I get my hands on a good P again, I might go with flats, just to have the back-in-the-day vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginormous View Post
    Flats on a P is the "OG" sound. Jamerson, Duck Dunn, Chuck Rainey, & so on.

    When I get my hands on a good P again, I might go with flats, just to have the back-in-the-day vibe.
    Donít forget the foam string mute. Thatís half of the tone right there. Some guys stuck a big piece of foam under the strings.


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    If you're not in triple digits it doesnt even sound like a bass

    unless its got mad active pickups and doesnt weigh jack....and even then, a heavier proper bass with proper strings and the same pups will crush it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adieu View Post
    If you're not in triple digits it doesn't even sound like a bass
    Because it isn't!
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    '69 Gibson EB-1
    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adieu View Post
    If you're not in triple digits it doesnt even sound like a bass
    Quote Originally Posted by dg27 View Post
    Because it isn't!
    I may have misinterpreted what was being said about "triple digits": I took that to mean that a .95 E is not going to have the same effect as a .110. A .105 is the lowest I'll go with.
    '69 Fender Mustang bass
    '69 Gibson EB-1
    '76 Rickenbacker 4001 w/SD for Rick N & B
    '76 Fender Precision w/Dimarzio Model P
    '84 MIJ Fender Jazz Bass Special w/SD Hot for P neck & Hot for J bridge
    '99 fretless MIJ Fender Precision/'87 MIJ Fender Squier Jazz hybrid w/SD QP for Jazz
    '12 MIM Fender Jazz w/Dimarzio Model J
    '14 Warmoth Custom T w/ SDCS Stack for SCPB N & B

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg27 View Post
    I may have misinterpreted what was being said about "triple digits": I took that to mean that a .95 E is not going to have the same effect as a .110. A .105 is the lowest I'll go with.
    Pretty much

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