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    May as well make a thread about jazz. Feel free to post some of your own tunes or other good tunes or cool lessons and stuff. Here's Don't get around much no mo. The A2P is $$ for jazz. I bet you liked the diminished whole tone scale in the intro huh?! :P

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    Here's my other post.



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    Nice work Clint55. That was relaxing. Makes me want sip a smokey whiskey in a speakeasy while wearing a fedora.
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    Nice work!

    Iíll try to record something with my bizarro Esquire.

    Thanks for taking the initiative. Not the most talked about genre here

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    Thx! No prob. Yes, jazz isn't that popular but it's great music.
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    Nice!

    The method I was taught was ostensibly a "jazz" method, and I learned to play many standards and licks as a byproduct ... however, I am not a jazz player and every time I play jazz it sounds totally fake to my ears. I love the genre, love listening to it (particularly hard bop), but I am basically a dumb prog guy.
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    Thx! Yeah jazz is tough to sound authentic. I started in college and I'm finally getting my act together 14 years later. I like hard bop too. My favorite hard bop musicians would be Grant Green and Bobby Timmons.
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    You guys got it all wrong:

    https://youtu.be/PYSEQImJnNw

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    Iím sure this is just me, but Iím not really a fan of Jazz as a style.
    Donít get me wrong, I can hear the expertise that it takes to play in that style and Iíll be the first to admit that I probably canít do it. At least not without a lot of practice.
    I respect the players in that genre.
    BUT, at the end of the day I find it absolutely boring as f*ck. Thereís no excitement and I find myself tuning it out like background music.
    Iíve tried in the past to give it a chance as a listener, but it just doesnít do anything for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    I’m sure this is just me, but I’m not really a fan of Jazz as a style.
    Don’t get me wrong, I can hear the expertise that it takes to play in that style and I’ll be the first to admit that I probably can’t do it. At least not without a lot of practice.
    I respect the players in that genre.
    BUT, at the end of the day I find it absolutely boring as f*ck. There’s no excitement and I find myself tuning it out like background music.
    I’ve tried in the past to give it a chance as a listener, but it just doesn’t do anything for me.
    There's no shame in not liking a genre; sounds like you gave it a shot.

    I will say this, however:

    30 years ago I wouldn't be caught dead listening to experimental, ambient, or other "20th century/avantguarde" composers. As my tastes have evolved over time, I listen to far less metal/pop/rock than I did then and a LOT more of the former...

    Frank Zappa's music is a great gateway from diatonic/pentatonic music into stuff that's more challenging.

    I repeat -- THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DIATONIC OR PENTATONIC MUSIC! But the other stuff exists for those looking to go beyond the dominant 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwilightOdyssey View Post
    There's no shame in not liking a genre; sounds like you gave it a shot.

    I will say this, however:

    30 years ago I wouldn't be caught dead listening to experimental, ambient, or other "20th century/avantguarde" composers. As my tastes have evolved over time, I listen to far less metal/pop/rock than I did then and a LOT more of the former...

    Frank Zappa's music is a great gateway from diatonic/pentatonic music into stuff that's more challenging.

    I repeat -- THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DIATONIC OR PENTATONIC MUSIC! But the other stuff exists for those looking to go beyond the dominant 7.
    The guy Iíve been taking lessons with comes from a similar rock background as I do. Over the years however, he has gone down the Jazz path and as such, he often references various jazz examples (in the style of*) when we discuss the topics we do.
    Iíd like to think that someday Iíll be able to be a rock player that is able to approach the instrument in a way that resembles what a jazz guy might be thinking.


    We shall see, however. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    Iím sure this is just me, but Iím not really a fan of Jazz as a style.
    Donít get me wrong, I can hear the expertise that it takes to play in that style and Iíll be the first to admit that I probably canít do it. At least not without a lot of practice.
    I respect the players in that genre.
    BUT, at the end of the day I find it absolutely boring as f*ck. Thereís no excitement and I find myself tuning it out like background music.
    Iíve tried in the past to give it a chance as a listener, but it just doesnít do anything for me.
    I grew up with jazz and it really makes me happy to listen to it. What puts you off? The fact that it's instrumental, slow, moody? Do you include fusion in that? There's also SO much variety that there HAS to be something you like. We gotta find it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blille View Post
    I grew up with jazz and it really makes me happy to listen to it. What puts you off? The fact that it's instrumental, slow, moody? Do you include fusion in that? There's also SO much variety that there HAS to be something you like. We gotta find it!!
    I think the thing I canít wrap my head around is the ďoutsideĒ playing. I need more of a direct melody, a more traditional melody.

    Tbh, I havenít listened to a ton of fusion but the little I did listen too gave me that same uncomfortable feeling.

    I like instrumental music quite a lot. Iíve been listening to a bit of Jason Becker lately since the other thread came up. Iíve always loved Satch too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    I think the thing I canít wrap my head around is the ďoutsideĒ playing. I need more of a direct melody, a more traditional melody.

    Tbh, I havenít listened to a ton of fusion but the little I did listen too gave me that same uncomfortable feeling.

    I like instrumental music quite a lot. Iíve been listening to a bit of Jason Becker lately since the other thread came up. Iíve always loved Satch too.
    I think there's hope!

    There's obviously a lot of outside playing in general but some things are more melodic than others. If I spot a song that I think would be a good fit I'll send it your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blille View Post
    I think there's hope!

    There's obviously a lot of outside playing in general but some things are more melodic than others. If I spot a song that I think would be a good fit I'll send it your way.
    That works! Iím open to that!!

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    Good jazz is extremely melodic.

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    What never cease to amaze me is the fact that many of these great jazz cats were once heroin addicts - Miles Davis, Bill Evans, Charlie Parket, Elmo Hope, Mike Stern and Scofield to name a few - long before Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee checking in and out of rehab; yet they managed to elude that notorious 'sex, drugs and rock n roll' stereotype.

    Is it the ironed suits? Or the saxophone?

    Anyway, Frank Zappa wasn't jazz. His style was more visceral; he played whatever the f notes he felt like doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    Good jazz is extremely melodic.
    Hmmm, agree to disagree on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    Good jazz is extremely melodic.

    I listened to this, this morning. Obviously I have heard the vocal version before. This is probably one of the more well known standards in the genre. Chet is a hell of a player, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsessive Compulsive View Post
    What never cease to amaze me is the fact that many of these great jazz cats were once heroin addicts - Miles Davis, Bill Evans, Charlie Parket, Elmo Hope, Mike Stern and Scofield to name a few - long before Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee checking in and out of rehab; yet they managed to elude that notorious 'sex, drugs and rock n roll' stereotype.

    Is it the ironed suits? Or the saxophone?

    Anyway, Frank Zappa wasn't jazz. His style was more visceral; he played whatever the f notes he felt like doing.
    Right?
    Maybe because back then there werenít as many outlets for this type of thing to be publicized?
    In the 80ís you had tons of magazines that could publish articles about this stuff. Besides radio, Iím not sure what they had in the 40ís to get this type of info out there....plus they were more conservative times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwilightOdyssey View Post
    Hmmm, agree to disagree on this one.
    You mean there's also good jazz that the focus isn't melody? Or that you don't think that was melodic?!!
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