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    Default NSD .. New Speaker Day

    So my new EHX Vintage 30 like speaker arrived

    Well it came Tuesday I think
    But still

    I was planning on putting it in my Jet City 1x12
    Replacing the Eminence that came with

    But another project had me at Walmart in the car stereo isle
    And I saw a particle board 1x12 car woofer speaker box
    Covered in gray fuzzy stuff

    So I have a 1/4 jack I can put in

    Would this work as a guitar speaker
    I can always slap a handle on it
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    I can tell you, after researching this topic before I built a speaker cabinet, that it isn't rocket science. It's a wood box with a guitar speaker.

    That being said, there are things to consider such as :

    Open vs closed back - some speakers sound better in different cabinets

    Size of the box - there's calculations online you can enter the speakers technical info and determine the best size speaker cabinet for open or closed back. The size can effect the sound considerably

    Materials Used

    How it is used - in a corner, in a small room or large room, etc

    But, to answer your question, technically, the speaker box would work in that you can install the speaker you have and produce sound. It may not be totally ideal though.

    Hope this helps. There are more knowledgeable people than me on this topic.

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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Does anyone have a link to the cabinet volume calculator

    The one at Walmart has the cabinet total cubic size listed on the box
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    http://www.micka.de/en/

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    Ok so it took about 5 minutes to slap that speaker in the Jet City

    I like it

    It is 8 ohms and has a bit more presence than the Eminence
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    Ok so it took about 5 minutes to slap that speaker in the Jet City

    I like it

    It is 8 ohms and has a bit more presence than the Eminence
    Did you think the stock Eminence speaker was kind of dull? I have the same amp and think it's bland with rolled off highs.

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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    I recorded the amp's headphone cab simulated out and the cabinet's emulated out
    The cabinet had a better chime and high end out of it

    The Jet City cab can be closed or open or tuned semi open
    The new speaker sounds a little more open at the lower wattage levels

    The Eminence is 16 ohms and 100 watts
    The EHX is 8 ohms and 75 watts

    The 8 ohm speaker wasnt twice as loud as I expected
    It does sound slightly more dynamic and has some more high end at the lower wattage

    I have the amp at 0.1 watt here at the house
    And cranked wide open on the volume
    And it does seem a bit "rolled off"

    That seems to get a bit better with the EHX

    Oh wait

    I dont have the Jet City amp
    I am playing a Bugera G5 through the Jet City 1x12
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    Does anyone have a link to the cabinet volume calculator

    The one at Walmart has the cabinet total cubic size listed on the box
    I just picked up a dimensions of couple of well known cab manufacturers.

    Then I miscalculated the depht and got "2 deeper cab. Sounds great nevertheless. Very airy and spacious on low volume, it gets tighter with volume, but won't woof no matter how hard I push it.
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    I think I'll just get one of the car woofer cabs for now
    Slap a 1/4 inch jack in it and a handle

    Should be fine for now
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    So this is what I was thinking about

    I have some feet and a handle lying around to throw on it

    Belva 12-inch Car Subwoofer Box Sealed 3/4-inch MDF Prelined Polyfil [MDFS1215] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EV6ED2A..._m7nJCbN2XPKJ9

    Does anyone see why this wouldn't work as a guitar speaker cab?

    Would the polyfill cause any problems?
    I'm sure it's just there for bass woofer standing wave reduction
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    I would say the risk of a Car sub woofer is the dimensions, materials and porting are designed for sound in the lower range of a guitar -so if you like the mid and top of your guitar to be even, perhaps a fuller range cabinet would be better, that said -theres probably so little science in a Walmart Sub box that it may not be the frequency optimized anyways -which is likely better for a guitar. Either way, its hit or miss -maybe its amazing or you prefer a 80-400hz bump in your sound.

    You should post an A/B clip. Curious

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    Ok so I got the Scosche one from Walmart for $30

    12 inch speaker version



    My plan is to drill a hole for a Barrel style jack in back


    No room here




    I think I'll leave that there and just make a new hole


    Here are the dimensions of the box
    Fairly roomy



    I think I'll put the Eminence into my Belair and get one of the Carvin speakers in the Jet city box. And put the new EHX speaker in sthe Scosche box
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Well just drilling out the space below didn't work



    What can I make a new plate with

    Hmm
    Hey the lid on the battery box is flat
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Reshaping with the dremel
    And now to clean it up



    Cleaned up and align my holes

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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Can't find my counter sink bits but this is a rough test project anyways
    A hand turned drill bit will work
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Ok so it looks good so far
    The screws that Scosche sent are way too small
    I got some from my collection of 3/4 inch screws
    Predrill is a must


    Robbed the EHX out of the Jet City
    Probably gonna swap in a Carvin speaker from the Belair tonight



    New jack plate



    Added me some feet



    Looks fine with the Bugera G5


    If it sounds good then a handle and a metal speaker cover and we done
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Ok so wonderful
    Went to swap the speakers in the Belair
    Those are 8 ohm each, I so thought they were 16 ohm each
    In fact, I had the impedance switch set at 8 ohm for what my meter says is a 4 ohm load

    I put the switch back at 4 ohm and the amp sounds lifeless and bright

    Tried it wit the new EHX cab
    Sounds awesome at 8 ohms

    Disconnected one speaker, set at 8 ohms
    Sounds great again
    I may try wiring the 8 ohm speaker in series and try the 16 ohm setting

    I think the 4 ohm tap is jacked up
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Yep in series the 16 ohm tap works fine
    I may have crossed the wires when went to snatch it out it was kinda screechy and out of phase
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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    So, is the 4 Ohm output of the amp ok?
    If so, you should try that into the two 8 Ohm speakers in parallel. More low end if I remember correctly.

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    Default Re: NSD .. New Speaker Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Demanic View Post
    So, is the 4 Ohm output of the amp ok?
    If so, you should try that into the two 8 Ohm speakers in parallel. More low end if I remember correctly.

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    That's the way it was to begin with
    2x8 ohm parallel into the 8 ohm switch setting

    I moved the setting to 4 ohm when I discovered my mistake

    It was thin and bright
    May have had the wires crossed and the speakers out of phase with each other
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