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    Default Re: Orange ppc212 vs Engl pro 2x12 vs Zilla Fatboy 2x12

    Quote Originally Posted by dave74 View Post
    You might do well with a Marshall 1936 212.
    I really don't believe the v30/h30 will take you far from your current Orange's tone,,,,,or at least not enough.
    But v30/g412t75 i think would.

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    Default Re: Orange ppc212 vs Engl pro 2x12 vs Zilla Fatboy 2x12

    With a 212 flipped vertically you will probably want the v30 down and the t75 up,,,,,,they match better like that IMO.
    The Orange cab is a great cab though ( top-notch construction). Additionally a classic-lead or k100 really pair well with a v30 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave74 View Post
    With a 212 flipped vertically you will probably want the v30 down and the t75 up,,,,,,they match better like that IMO.
    The Orange cab is a great cab though ( top-notch construction). Additionally a classic-lead or k100 really pair well with a v30 too.
    Ok, thanks buddy! I'll let you know what i've decided.

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    Default Re: Orange ppc212 vs Engl pro 2x12 vs Zilla Fatboy 2x12

    Quote Originally Posted by mindys87 View Post
    Ok, thanks buddy! I'll let you know what i've decided.
    Yeah we will love to hear your findings.
    Since you already are looking at pricey stuff anyways,,,,,David Laboga cabs also do the speaker mixing, customs and even a stock v/k mix 212.

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    Default Re: Orange ppc212 vs Engl pro 2x12 vs Zilla Fatboy 2x12

    You know, its funny, I've run an EVH through an Orange 4x12 loaded with V30s and it was horrible and ice-picky, and I couldn't for the lfie of me udnerstand how anyone would ever think Orange cabs are dark and muffled.
    Then I plugged an actual Orange amp into it just two days ago and sure enough - dark and muddy.
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    So i decided to get g12t75 and pair it with V30 in my orange 2x12 cab. I flipped it vertically and i like the sound much better now, because i can hear everything very well and it doesn't sound as boomy as it was before. Is it better to put g12t75 on the top?

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    Default Re: Orange ppc212 vs Engl pro 2x12 vs Zilla Fatboy 2x12

    Quote Originally Posted by mindys87 View Post
    So i decided to get g12t75 and pair it with V30 in my orange 2x12 cab. I flipped it vertically and i like the sound much better now, because i can hear everything very well and it doesn't sound as boomy as it was before. Is it better to put g12t75 on the top?
    If it sounds better to you then it IS better, I would say.

    IME, most guitar cabs will sound pretty bad until you bring them up to ear level, and even more so if you're playing at lower volume. This presupposes that you're standing very close to your amp. The further away you get, the less this will matter.

    My guess is you'd hear more clarity and less boomyness if you flipped it the other way as well, because the speakers are now better aligned with your ears. Think of your ears as microphones. If you wanted to record your amp, you'd place them somewhere in front of one speaker cone. For room reverb, you'd place it further away. But you'd (probably) not place it a meter directly above the speaker.

    If you have the space for it, get a couple of wooden risers (or, if you don't min the ugly look, 6 - 8 empty plastic beer or milk crates) and stack your cab on top of it. World of difference.
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