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    Default Re: EL 84 reliabilty and tone revews.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    They do and is why I'm asking on the reliability.
    REALLY like the tone of the Mulards in particular in my little Boogie but the first pair did not last long. Have had really good luck with life with the TAD tubes and they sound pretty good so if this new pair of Mullards does not hang in there in the Boogie will just go back to them. Have JJ's just not crazy about the tone.
    Perhaps you were just unlucky with the earlier pair of Mullards and the new pair will last longer.

    There can be trade offs. The Mullards may have the best tone in your amp but they won't last as long as some other brands. The engineers say "speed, quality, cost - pick two." It is extremely difficult to optimize in all three categories. So finding the best tubes for your amp may be like a "balancing act."

    Maybe you primarily use the TADs, but if you're going to be recording you swap in some Mullards for the sessions.
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    Default Re: EL 84 reliabilty and tone revews.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    The first Marshalls came with Mullards which are also a dark tube like the Teslas although much different sounding. Know in the 90's that they came with Sovetecs or at least my JCM 900's did. After that don't know?
    My Mini Jubilee had a Marshall-branded JJ in V1, Marshall-branded Shuguangs in V2 & V3, and Tung-Sol EL-34s in the power section.
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    And that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.

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    Default EL 84 reliabilty and tone revews.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    The first Marshalls came with Mullards which are also a dark tube like the Teslas although much different sounding. Know in the 90's that they came with Sovetecs or at least my JCM 900's did. After that don't know?
    My 1994 JCM900 SL-X came with Marshall-branded Tesla EL-34M and Marshall-branded ECC83, which Ive read were made by Ei but Im not sure on that. The amp sounded like Angus, which is why I bought it. If it could do that sound it could do anything else I wanted.

    On the EL-84 subject, my VOX AC-30s have had JJs stock and have lasted for at least 10 years, though one V1 pre tube went microphonic.
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    I am currently using Skullcandy headphones I found in the garbage.
    I did find the DS-1 in the garbage.
    I once found a guitar amp in the garbage, a Peavey Studio 110. It caught fire at the first gig I played it at.. But it was at the end of it, thank god.

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    Default Re: EL 84 reliabilty and tone revews.

    Quote Originally Posted by beaubrummels View Post
    My 1994 JCM900 SL-X came with Marshall-branded Tesla EL-34M and Marshall-branded ECC83, which Ive read were made by Ei but Im not sure on that. The amp sounded like Angus, which is why I bought it. If it could do that sound it could do anything else I wanted.

    On the EL-84 subject, my VOX AC-30s have had JJs stock and have lasted for at least 10 years, though one V1 pre tube went microphonic.
    The Marshall branded tubes should have a numerical code printed on them. Those codes will tell you what tubes they actually are.

    http://www.marshallforum.com/threads...e-codes.20734/

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    Default Re: EL 84 reliabilty and tone revews.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    The Marshall branded tubes should have a numerical code printed on them. Those codes will tell you what tubes they actually are.

    http://www.marshallforum.com/threads...e-codes.20734/
    Unfortunately those tubes are long gone. I have a Mullard 10M in V1, and an official Ei in V3 and Tungsram in V2 and I think a Soviet in the PI. I also still have a couple of the Marshall EL-34Ms but no longer a matched set.
    Quote Originally Posted by Demanic
    Incompetence is widespread in a world that rewards mediocrity while punishing excellence.
    Quote Originally Posted by GuitarFanatic
    I am currently using Skullcandy headphones I found in the garbage.
    I did find the DS-1 in the garbage.
    I once found a guitar amp in the garbage, a Peavey Studio 110. It caught fire at the first gig I played it at.. But it was at the end of it, thank god.

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    Default Re: EL 84 reliabilty and tone revews.

    Quote Originally Posted by beaubrummels View Post
    Unfortunately those tubes are long gone. I have a Mullard 10M in V1, and an official Ei in V3 and Tungsram in V2 and I think a Soviet in the PI. I also still have a couple of the Marshall EL-34Ms but no longer a matched set.
    Gotcha....I misunderstood you. I thought you had the Marshall ones still.

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