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    Default A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    I saw a Blues Rock band last night, and the guitar player used the usual suspects.
    Fender Strat, TS9, (some 2nd overdrive . . . i think it was an Akai unit) and a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (40W, 1X12)

    It is the best Strat tone that i have heard live / attended.
    I was never a tube screamer fan, and sold my TS9 a year ago.
    I am wiling to try again, but this time i am looking for an overdrive with all the 808/TS9 qualities, but slighly grittier in it's tonal charcter.

    Is there such a thing ?

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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Bluez Driver?

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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    Bluez Driver?
    I already own a BD-2 . . . and to my ears,does not sound like a grittier 808.
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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    You could use an eq pedal after the 808 and emphasize the mids or upper mids.

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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Get a RAT. Tube Screamers are soft clipping. You want a hard clipping pedal


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    The solution here I reckon is a simple mod to hard clip a standard Tube Screamer, be it a 9 or an 808.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chistopher View Post
    The solution here I reckon is a simple mod to hard clip a standard Tube Screamer, be it a 9 or an 808.
    Not that simple. Soft clipping puts the diodes in the feedback loop of the op amp. Hard clipping puts the clipping diodes on the output of the op amp connected to ground.

    A cheap, but good solution is to buy one of these. For $30 you get a DS-1, Distortion +, and a Rat.

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...-modeler-dm100


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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    You could use an eq pedal after the 808 and emphasize the mids or upper mids.
    Will an EQ enhace / add some grit to the tone aswell ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJackdeFuzz View Post
    Will an EQ enhace / add some grit to the tone aswell ?
    Absolutely. I've had great results tweaking the sounds of my overdrives, improving the sound or making it grittier. Starting with a light od such as the East river drive.

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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Maybe check out a Dirty Deed?
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    No love for the Boss SD1?
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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diego View Post
    No love for the Boss SD1?
    That is what I came here to say.
    Although I am not exactly sure what "grittier" means? Less smooth?

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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Locher View Post
    That is what I came here to say.
    Although I am not exactly sure what "grittier" means? Less smooth?
    I would imagine so. Not as creamy, which is exactly what the SD1 sounds to me compared to a regular Tubescreamer. A bit more raspy.
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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    I was thinking SD-1 as well.
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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Yup, Boss SD-1. It has asymmetrical clipping diodes vs. the symmetrical setup in a TS. Sound give you a little more edge. If that's not enough, do the C6 mod to "take off the blanket".
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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clint 55 View Post
    Absolutely. I've had great results tweaking the sounds of my overdrives, improving the sound or making it grittier. Starting with a light od such as the East river drive.
    Sweet . . . thanks . . . i will then deff look what an EQ can do for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego View Post
    No love for the Boss SD1?
    My SD1 . . . does not sound like an SD1 any more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Locher View Post
    That is what I came here to say.
    Although I am not exactly sure what "grittier" means? Less smooth?
    . . . pretty much, yes !
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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Maybe you should try an SD-1 that...still sounds like an SD-1?

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    Default Re: A grittier sounding 808/TS9 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Locher View Post
    Maybe you should try an SD-1 that...still sounds like an SD-1?

    . . . i'll try my MXR Zak Wylde ZW44 again . . . as it is based on an SD-1.
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