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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    still waiting for a high profile humbucker frame for the JB before i drop my guitar off at the luthier's place.


    I heard someone say that the STK-S6 is basically a noiseless SSL-5, is this true?

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    still waiting for a high profile humbucker frame for the JB before i drop my guitar off at the luthier's place.


    I heard someone say that the STK-S6 is basically a noiseless SSL-5, is this true?
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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Actually, it is closer to an SSL-6 (flat poles).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Actually, it is closer to an SSL-6 (flat poles).
    My guitar is at the luthiers shop now, it'll probably be ready tomorrow or the day after, i was wondering if the lil59 bridge in neck position would also be a good option, since it's probably voiced similar to the lil59neck but with a bit more output?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reee View Post
    My guitar is at the luthiers shop now, it'll probably be ready tomorrow or the day after, i was wondering if the lil59 bridge in neck position would also be a good option, since it's probably voiced similar to the lil59neck but with a bit more output?
    That might actually be a good idea. I've never tried it, but maybe someone here has.
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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reee View Post
    My guitar is at the luthiers shop now, it'll probably be ready tomorrow or the day after, i was wondering if the lil59 bridge in neck position would also be a good option, since it's probably voiced similar to the lil59neck but with a bit more output?
    I had suggested that too. Didn't you say you had tried the lil 59 bridge in neck position already and was too muddy for your taste?
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    I had suggested that too. Didn't you say you had tried the lil 59 bridge in neck position already and was too muddy for your taste?
    I had indeed, but I forgot that was with a 250k pot because it was in my MIM strat (which i have since sold) so maybe that's why it was muddy? in any case i look forward to hearing the STK-S6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reee View Post
    I had indeed, but I forgot that was with a 250k pot because it was in my MIM strat (which i have since sold) so maybe that's why it was muddy? in any case i look forward to hearing the STK-S6
    Even with 500k pots, the Lil 59 is gonna sound muddy in the neck.
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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reee View Post
    I had indeed, but I forgot that was with a 250k pot because it was in my MIM strat (which i have since sold) so maybe that's why it was muddy? in any case i look forward to hearing the STK-S6
    Maybe. I once tried the hot rails with 250k and it was too muddy for my taste, maybe 500k could help. Also, I don't use a tone knob in my guitar with humbuckers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMENATOR View Post
    Maybe. I once tried the hot rails with 250k and it was too muddy for my taste, maybe 500k could help. Also, I don't use a tone knob in my guitar with humbuckers.
    I ordered a hot rails Neck, the STK-S6 is waaaaaay too low in output, it's a great sounding pickup but it doesn't match the JB in output.

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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Actually I am surprised that the STK-S6 is that far off of a JB. I know quite a few people that are happy with the balance of SSL-2s with a JB, so I'd think the output of the S6 would even be a closer match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Actually I am surprised that the STK-S6 is that far off of a JB. I know quite a few people that are happy with the balance of SSL-2s with a JB, so I'd think the output of the S6 would even be a closer match.
    maybe those people like a volume boost when switching to the bridge? i personally prefer neck and bridge to be somewhat even in output

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    Actually I am surprised that the STK-S6 is that far off of a JB. I know quite a few people that are happy with the balance of SSL-2s with a JB, so I'd think the output of the S6 would even be a closer match.
    also not liking the JB after playing with it a bit, too much mids and output in general, i'm gonna try a '59 in the bridge with hot rails in the neck

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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Let us know how you like that combo.
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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    The output thingies, and especially the tone thingies, on the Duncan site are near total garbage, IME. The B/M/T numbers appear to be completely subjective, and seem as if different people made different judgment at different times. You are better off asking here than looking at them.

    DiMarzio's, OTOH, are remarkably good IME. Not sure why the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaBass View Post
    The output thingies, and especially the tone thingies, on the Duncan site are near total garbage, IME. The B/M/T numbers appear to be completely subjective, and seem as if different people made different judgment at different times. You are better off asking here than looking at them.

    DiMarzio's, OTOH, are remarkably good IME. Not sure why the difference.
    is the B/M/T thingie on the Hot Rails Neck page also wrong? it would be strange to have that much mids in a neck pickup

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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Well, it is just a graph with no scale, but there are a lot of mids in both the neck and bridge Hot Rails. I certainly can't vouch for the graph's scientific accuracy across all pickups.
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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reee View Post
    is the B/M/T thingie on the Hot Rails Neck page also wrong? it would be strange to have that much mids in a neck pickup
    All the pickup numbers appear to be arbitrary and inconsistent. I believe I said "garbage" as in pretty much useless, and to be ignored. I don't know if "wrong" or "right" can really be stated about them, but I do believe that the numbers are of so little utility that they actually do more harm than good.

    I don't know what DiMarzio does to come up with their numbers, but whatever it is, it appears to be consistent across their pickup lines, and that's the main thing that matters.
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    Default Re: Does the STK-S6 have the same output as a '59 humbucker?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsaBass View Post
    All the pickup numbers appear to be arbitrary and inconsistent. I believe I said "garbage" as in pretty much useless, and to be ignored. I don't know if "wrong" or "right" can really be stated about them, but I do believe that the numbers are of so little utility that they actually do more harm than good.

    I don't know what DiMarzio does to come up with their numbers, but whatever it is, it appears to be consistent across their pickup lines, and that's the main thing that matters.
    is a hot rails neck similar to a full size PAF/59 pickup in output and EQ?

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