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    Hi everybody, I'm new here, writing from Italy (forgive me for my basic english)

    I'm building my second telecaster
    on the first one I made a classic wiring (bridge / both / neck)

    on this one I would like to try a different wiring

    I'm really a non-expert, hope not to say stupid things

    I want to use a broadcaster single coil in the bridge position, and a PAF humbucker in the neck position
    I would like to have a wiring similar to the blended wiring of the early broadcaster, but with some differences

    my intent is to have this final result:

    REAR POSITION - bridge pickup with volume and tone control
    FRONT POSITION - neck pickup with volume and tone control
    CENTER POSITION - like the following drawing (tone control converted to a blender to add the neck pickup)

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    I've searched info but haven't find anything similar

    as mentioned before, I'm a newbie so, in case of answer, try to be more detailed as possibile


    thanks


    Matteo

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    Default Re: telecaster wiring (single coil + humbucker with blender)

    Welcome to the forum. (I was born in Italy.)

    This should do it:

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    Make sense?

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    Default Re: telecaster wiring (single coil + humbucker with blender)

    Artie, first let me say that you are brilliant when it comes to guitar electronics.

    But in your diagram, I don't see where the bridge pup is at 100% in the center (#2) position.
    Originally Posted by IanBallard
    Rule of thumb... the more pot you have, the better your tone.

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    Oops. Good catch. (This was pre-coffee.) Editing as we speak.

    Edit: Fixed. I think. Doc?
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    Default Re: telecaster wiring (single coil + humbucker with blender)

    Did i get it right? The Tone pot works as tone pot and as blender depending the switch position? And the tone pot should be a linear pot?
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    Yup. Not sure about whether log or linear works better.

    I should also add that not all 3-way's are created equal. In my diagram, the 3-way "commons" are upper left, and lower right terminals.

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    I was wondering how this was done. Brilliant work.
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    I'd trade it all to know what the heck you all were saying in the "music theory" thread.

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    Ha! We'll hang out next time I play in Jacksonville!
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    Default Re: telecaster wiring (single coil + humbucker with blender)

    Deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    Yup. Not sure about whether log or linear works better.

    I should also add that not all 3-way's are created equal. In my diagram, the 3-way "commons" are upper left, and lower right terminals.
    thank you so much for your answer

    just a few questions more

    1 - I have two CTS vintage taper, 250k, both logarithmics
    better to take a linear one for the tone?

    2 - my switch is a GOTOH DM30. I guess it should work like the one in your diagrams, correct?

    3 - the arrow with tone cap means I have to put a capacitor on the black wire? should a 0.0047 works fine?

    4 - the humbucker should have 4 wires, but in your diagrams I just see two...

    5 - where do I fix the ground wire?


    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by il donda View Post
    thank you so much for your answer

    just a few questions more

    1 - I have two CTS vintage taper, 250k, both logarithmics
    better to take a linear one for the tone?
    Not necessarily. Log should work fine. I'm going to let someone else field this question.

    Quote Originally Posted by il donda
    2 - my switch is a GOTOH DM30. I guess it should work like the one in your diagrams, correct?
    Nope. You bought the "oddball". It's terminals are opposite. Don't break out the soldering iron until I can redraw that.

    Quote Originally Posted by il donda
    3 - the arrow with tone cap means I have to put a capacitor on the black wire? should a 0.0047 works fine?
    Yes, but most people would use a .047uf. A .0047 will work, but your tone will be very subtle.

    Quote Originally Posted by il donda
    4 - the humbucker should have 4 wires, but in your diagrams I just see two...
    If your PAF is a Duncan, then green and bare go to ground, red & white solder together, and black goes to the switch. If it's a different brand, we need to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by il donda
    5 - where do I fix the ground wire?
    I'm not sure what you're asking here. All ground wires eventually go to the "sleeve" terminal of the output jack. Can you clarify what you're asking?

    Quote Originally Posted by il donda View Post
    thanks again

    matteo
    No prob. We'll get this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    Not necessarily. Log should work fine. I'm going to let someone else field this question.
    perfect


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    Nope. You bought the "oddball". It's terminals are opposite. Don't break out the soldering iron until I can redraw that.
    ok thanks. I'll wait the new drawing


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    Yes, but most people would use a .047uf. A .0047 will work, but your tone will be very subtle.
    my mistake, I have a 0.047 (just added a 0 more)


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    If your PAF is a Duncan, then green and bare go to ground, red & white solder together, and black goes to the switch. If it's a different brand, we need to know.
    still haven't bought it
    the two options are SD Seth Lover and Tonerider Alnico II


    Quote Originally Posted by ArtieToo View Post
    I'm not sure what you're asking here. All ground wires eventually go to the "sleeve" terminal of the output jack. Can you clarify what you're asking?
    maybe I'm wrong, but in the most of wiring diagrams I see a "bridge ground wire" that shuold be linked to the rear of the bridge
    just asking if I need it and if it starts from the back of the pot or from somwhere else


    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by il donda View Post
    Maybe I'm wrong, but in the most of wiring diagrams I see a "bridge ground wire" that shuold be linked to the rear of the bridge
    just asking if I need it and if it starts from the back of the pot or from somwhere else


    thanks
    There definitely should be a bridge ground wire. Usually, if you loosen the bridge, you'll see a small hole where a bare wire will lay against the body, and be "pinched" by bolting down the bridge. The other end of the wire can just go to any other "ground" in the control cavity. They should all be electrically equivalent if your soldering is good.

    I'll get to the new drawing as soon as I get some coffee in me.

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    This should be correct for your switch. The "gray" terminals are the "commons".

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    you couldn't be more exhaustive

    thank you really much

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    I am exhausted. Where's my beer?

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