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    Looking for thoughts & ideas,

    I have a 4x10 cab loaded with celestion g10's & a 2x12 cab with a couple of cheapo eminence speakers in it.

    I also have a small 5 watt bad cat combo loaded with a celestion v30. It's too small a cab for the speaker & suffers for it. I was thinking of taking this v30 out getting another & loading my 2x12 with both of them.

    But this is probably way overkill for my needs.

    So I was also thinking of selling the 2x12, building an oversized 1x12 with the same width & depth dimensions as the 4x10 so it can sit underneath & load it with the v30.

    This would now leave me with an unloaded 5 watt combo, do I convert/rebuild it into a 1x10 (which is my preferred choice) so its a nice grab & go for practicing/playing along with the stereo/quietish jams,
    Thinking of using a 10" celestion gold or greenback

    Or is a small cabinet just not ever going to sound good & I'd be better off converting it into a head?

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    I'll let better minds than mine field this one but from experience, speakers make THE MOST difference in your tone than any other part of your signal chain. For realz.
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    I would convert it to a head if it was me.

    What are the dimensions and materials used in your current 2x12? The G12H30 is a popular and proven mate to a vintage 30 so that would be chance to do that.

    If you want a fairly light weight and compact 1x12 using the V30 that sounds huge, make one 25" wide, by 18" tall, by 11" deep. Use 1/2" birch ply. Use a back panel that leaves a 2" opening across the full width, either on top or on bottom. Off set the speaker slightly to the left or right of center.

    What are the dimensions of the 4x10?
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    Whats the main function? is this for live shows in clubs? at home jammin? recording?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lake Placid Blues View Post
    I would convert it to a head if it was me.

    What are the dimensions and materials used in your current 2x12? The G12H30 is a popular and proven mate to a vintage 30 so that would be chance to do that.

    If you want a fairly light weight and compact 1x12 using the V30 that sounds huge, make one 25" wide, by 18" tall, by 11" deep. Use 1/2" birch ply. Use a back panel that leaves a 2" opening across the full width, either on top or on bottom. Off set the speaker slightly to the left or right of center.

    What are the dimensions of the 4x10?
    Thanks for the reply, I'm leaning towards the 1x12 tbh for space, matching the 4x10 & cost reasons.

    I thought a 4x10 & 2x12 in stereo would sound incredible, but the times I'd use such a rig is pretty rare (to non existent)

    Marshall 4x10 24"x 24"x 12 1/4"

    Laney 2x12 (vc30 style) 19 3/4" x 26 1/4" x 11 1/2" (birch ply I think??)

    If I were to make a 1x12 I'd make it to pair the 4x10 so:

    24" x 18" x 12 1/4" if this would work?

    I can still use a back panel that leaves a 2" opening across the full width & off set the speaker slightly if this is beneficial
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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeEase View Post
    Whats the main function? is this for live shows in clubs? at home jammin? recording?
    In all honesty I have a 2x12 cab that I'm not really loving & I'd let go if without much persuading, & a potential v30 kicking around.

    I dont play live but occasionally jam.

    If I made a nice 1x12 I could use it at home,mic it for recording & with the 4x10 make a nice mini stack or stereo rig if I did need this.

    I guess one of the questions I'm asking in a convoluted way is do I really need a 2x12

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    If I were to make a 1x12 I'd make it to pair the 4x10 so:

    24" x 18" x 12 1/4" if this would work?

    I can still use a back panel that leaves a 2" opening across the full width & off set the speaker slightly if this is beneficial
    That should work fine.

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    Look at the Jet City 1x12
    It comes with a 16 ohm Eminence speaker
    Has a emulated mic/line out
    Is convertible from closed to open to tuned (semi open)
    They are oversized and sturdy made
    And $149 at MF

    They were on sale for $119

    Awesome for the price

    Oh and they have a thru Jack for your 4x10
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehdwuld View Post
    Look at the Jet City 1x12
    It comes with a 16 ohm Eminence speaker
    Has a emulated mic/line out
    Is convertible from closed to open to tuned (semi open)
    They are oversized and sturdy made
    And $149 at MF

    They were on sale for $119

    Awesome for the price

    Oh and they have a thru Jack for your 4x10
    I'm not looking to buy a 1x12 as I already have a speaker. I'm looking to either upgrade my 2x12 speakers or build an oversized 1x12 for the v30 I already have.

    I'm sure it's a great cab but not what I'm asking about

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    Ok
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    No worries, just want to try to keep thread on topic.

    Or before we know it someone will be suggesting I get a vintage leslie cabinet & dumble head to pair with my 4x10


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    Quote Originally Posted by regan View Post
    No worries, just want to try to keep thread on topic.

    Or before we know it someone will be suggesting I get a vintage leslie cabinet & dumble head to pair with my 4x10

    Oh yeah

    But you see I was I the same position as you
    I wanted a cab
    I had a speaker

    And I wanted the convertible cab
    When I went searching
    I found the one I listed

    When it was on sale it was cheaper than buying an unloaded cab
    And it had those other features

    I use mine for trying speakers now
    Because it has so much room

    Once I settle on one
    I plan to Ebay all the random other speakers I have around

    I tried car speaker cab
    Where I took a 12 inch woofer box and put a 1/4 inch Jack in back

    It sounds like a closed back cabinet
    It was 30 bucks plus the handle and grill and feet

    Around 50 bucks plus the speaker
    Which was another 50 bucks

    Just putting it out there to consider

    You can probably offload the Jet City Eminence for a couple of bucks

    Not trying to stray off topic

    I'll be quiet now
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