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    Default Best Marshall in a Box.........

    .......comes in a Marshall box.

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    Was in Guitar Center last weekend for the first time in years, checking local band postings. Over in the 'platinum' room I spotted a Marshall JVM 205H on clearance. Marked down to $900. Based on the serial number looked to be a 2015 so not really new but they claimed not used. So I fired her up and had a blast running through all the channels, got loud enough to make my ears hurt and some of the locals give dirty looks. Everything seemed to be working and sounding like a JVM should so dialed in a great Iron Maiden tone and gave everything a good test. Picked up a used 1960 lead cab in decent condition for $450 at the same time.

    I guess in this age of profilers, fly rigs and small boutique amps and pedal platforms you can find a deal on the big stuff. Ended up with the 6 button footswitch instead of the 4 button thanks to the sales guy (he initially tried to plug the speaker cable into the fx loop return before I intervened) so I can get each of the 6 modes on each switch. So using as a 6 channel amp until I get my favorite tones established.

    She's off to an amp tech soon for some new tubes, bias and a once over. After 4 years in a guitar center champagne room she's getting a service before any serious playing.

    Very much liking the tones so far. To me a Marshall through a 4x12 is the classic setup.

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    Very nice! Bandmate has the 4-channel one, nice amp with lots of options. Definitely a lot of usable tones inside, but the 4-channel version is definitely excessive (12 modes, kind of redundant at times). Enjoy your new amp!

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    Congrats on the new to you amp, enjoy
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    Congrats! That's a Marshall I'd really like to own. I've heard nothing but good-sounding clips of it.

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    Congrats! I have the 50-watt combo version, and am very happy with it. Untunately, the loops are not well designed, but apart from that this is a thoroughly excellent amp.

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    Oh time to upset the neighbors
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    Best classic Marshall? small Fender or Vox combo at full tilt with your chosen OD pedal in front

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    No.

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    Nice score man!
    I hope it rocks hard for many, many years!

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    Nice.

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    Cool. never played a JVM, but I've never played a tubed Marshall I didn't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirion View Post
    Congrats! I have the 50-watt combo version, and am very happy with it. Untunately, the loops are not well designed, but apart from that this is a thoroughly excellent amp.
    Was playing with the fx loop the other night and it worked pretty good with my pedals but is very dependent on the wet/dry blend control and it does seem to change the tone a bit. Not a problem if you leave it on all the time but can be an interesting effect if you footswitch it on and off e.g. to add some delay for leads or chorus for cleans. I think I may prefer the Mesa effects loops better, but getting very usable tones out of it.

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    I had the 100w 2-channel version of that head for a while. Loved it!

    If/when I get another, it will be the 50w version. Enjoy and congrats on the amp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyO View Post
    Was playing with the fx loop the other night and it worked pretty good with my pedals but is very dependent on the wet/dry blend control and it does seem to change the tone a bit. Not a problem if you leave it on all the time but can be an interesting effect if you footswitch it on and off e.g. to add some delay for leads or chorus for cleans. I think I may prefer the Mesa effects loops better, but getting very usable tones out of it.
    I think it sounds fine by itself, but it doesn't do 100% dry no matter what you do, so it does not work well with digital effects no matter what you do. Meanwhile, the series link is far too hot for most AD converters. For myself the solution would be to have it rewired into another series loop, which is a very doable procedure for an amp tech. It shouldn't be necessary, but fortunately the rest of the deal is oh so good!

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    Should be fun!
    Oh no.....


    Oh Yeah!

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    This chronic cheapskate wholeheartedly agrees with you. I've tried for years to get a Marshall tone on the cheap, and you're right. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but there's nothing like the real thing.

    Until I can afford the real thing, though, I'll have to make do with a clone. I picked up a Jet City 50-watt head for about $300, and after swapping for EL34s and tweaking the preamp here and there for a few months, I decided to go all-in and just convert it component for component to a JCM800 2204. I've never been happier with my tone.
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    Default Re: Best Marshall in a Box.........

    Those 20-watt studio Classic and Vintage heads might be a good solution as well. I played the vintage one and while it's not a full up JMP/Plexi it for sure copped the vibe. I'd love to try the classic version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B2D View Post
    Those 20-watt studio Classic and Vintage heads might be a good solution as well. I played the vintage one and while it's not a full up JMP/Plexi it for sure copped the vibe. I'd love to try the classic version.
    I've yet to encounter a Vintage or Classic in the wild, but I've had a Mini Jubilee since mid-2017, and an original 2555 since mid-2001. With the right tube compliment, they're shockingly close. If I have both powered up and swap cables between them, the 2555 is obviously louder and just slightly thicker in the low mids. Other than that, I can't really tell them apart. The 2525H is good enough, that I've played through the 2555 maybe half a dozen times since getting the Mini. The only big difference between them is how they respond to different power tubes. The 2555 doesn't seem to care what's in the power section unless you're playing louder than the voice of God. I once tried a set of KT-88s and it was a little bit louder and bassier; that was it. The 2525H OTOH sounds very different with different brands of EL-34s. The stock Tung-Sols have a bright, glassy, and almost Fender-like clean tone. On the overdrive channel they're piercingly bright and thin, and the high end is hard to control. With JJ EL-34s it sounds virtually identical to the 2555. LakePlacidBlues has tried a ton of different tubes in his Mini and could provide even more feedback than I can.
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    And that's probably because most people with electric guitars seem more interested in their own performance rather than the effect on the listener ... in fact i don't think many people who own electric guitars even give a poop about the effect on a listener. Which is why many people play electric guitars but very very few of them are actually musicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dystrust View Post
    With JJ EL-34s it sounds virtually identical to the 2555. LakePlacidBlues has tried a ton of different tubes in his Mini and could provide even more feedback than I can.
    This is good to know. The JVM is at my amp tech right now getting a new set of JJ’s and a bias.

    Those classic series amps look awesome. I can see the plexi and JCM800 versions being useful for getting that power tube saturation at a lower volume. The newer Marshall’s get their gain more from the preamp than from overdriving the power section, and the JVM was getting pretty good tones at a reasonable volume, that just gets better as you get the tubes cooking.

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    Quick update, the amp came back from my amp tech last week rebiased and retubed with a new set of JJs. Took it to rehearsal last night and cranked it up to about half volume for a couple of hours through a 4x12 with bassist, drums, rhythm guitarist and singer. It sounded glorious and working through all six modes from clean to metal each one proved excellent. I think my current favorites are clean green, crunch red and OD Amber. I could play a whole classic rock gig with just the crunch red channel - classic Marshall tone that sounded perfect for Free and Bad Company tunes. The OD Amber was perfect for all my favorite Van Halen and Iron Maiden numbers. The other band mates really liked the tones too. Very impressed with the JVM 50 watt and may now be on the lookout for a good deal on the 410h 100w version!

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