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    Default Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

    right... anyway... put the a5 magnet in that pup and let us know what you think. i bet itll be much closer to what you want

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    In the probability of the construction of a fullshred / jb hybrid with alnico 5 bar magnet,
    .... And heavy formvar insulation on the JB screw coil I would like to have your opinion.

    What suits better for me knowing that I do not like JB's high mids and that I love the custom 5's scooped sound?

    Or rather, what differences would I have if this same pickup had been fitted with:

    - alnico 5 rough cast
    - an alnico oriented 5 bar
    - regular alnico 5 bar


    And compared to insulation ... There are several kinds I think.
    -heavy formvar
    -heavy poly
    -enamel ....



    What would you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    right... anyway... put the a5 magnet in that pup and let us know what you think. i bet itll be much closer to what you want
    Anyway I need a 2nd for my other guitar

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    Default Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

    Magnets are cheap.... buy a bunch and experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrjunior View Post
    Magnets are cheap.... buy a bunch and experiment.
    I can do that. But I would like to reed different opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micha View Post

    - alnico 5 rough cast
    - an alnico oriented 5 bar
    - regular alnico 5 bar
    if you have those at your disposal and like the scooped sound of the c5, id start with a polished oriented a5. if that is too upper middy then try the rough cast

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy View Post
    if you have those at your disposal and like the scooped sound of the c5, id start with a polished oriented a5. if that is too upper middy then try the rough cast
    I found a dealer for buy magnets.... But not rough cast (for shipping in France)... But Thanks for advice.

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    Both pickups you have shown us are trem-spaced.

    Your friend's ESP has a trem-spaced bridge. Most imports do, even with TOM setups. Even the majority of USA Gibsons haven't been "regular" spaced at the bridge since the '80s.

    As for magnets:

    - Regular, polished A5 is the strongest and most pronounced.
    - Roughcast A5 takes the "edge" off of the attack, but doesn't really change the overall tone and the strength of the magnet is on-par with the polished version.
    - Unoriented A5 (aka: UOA5) has a noticeably lower output than the previous two versions and tends to take on some A2-esque qualities without being nearly as warm and round as A2. UOA5 is great for taming a high output A5 pickup without losing all of the cool qualities of the A5 mag.

    If you want to read opinions, I suggest you do a search here on the forums...there's a TON of info on magnets out there already
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    Quote Originally Posted by masta' c View Post
    Both pickups you have shown us are trem-spaced.

    Your friend's ESP has a trem-spaced bridge. Most imports do, even with TOM setups. Even the majority of USA Gibsons haven't been "regular" spaced at the bridge since the '80s.

    As for magnets:

    - Regular, polished A5 is the strongest and most pronounced.
    - Roughcast A5 takes the "edge" off of the attack, but doesn't really change the overall tone and the strength of the magnet is on-par with the polished version.
    - Unoriented A5 (aka: UOA5) has a noticeably lower output than the previous two versions and tends to take on some A2-esque qualities without being nearly as warm and round as A2. UOA5 is great for taming a high output A5 pickup without losing all of the cool qualities of the A5 mag.

    If you want to read opinions, I suggest you do a search here on the forums...there's a TON of info on magnets out there already
    OK.. Thanks.
    UOA5 are in my opinion not made for metal or high gain applications if I understand what you wrote...

    So rough cast or regular should be the better option....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micha View Post
    OK.. Thanks.
    UOA5 are in my opinion not made for metal or high gain applications if I understand what you wrote...

    So rough cast or regular should be the better option....
    I have a JB with a rough UOA5 in it. I use it for high gain metal and I think that it works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micha View Post
    OK.. Thanks.
    UOA5 are in my opinion not made for metal or high gain applications if I understand what you wrote...
    UOA5 can work great for high gain and metal!

    Sometimes a regular A5 has too much output or comes off a bit harsh and a UOA5 remedies that. Sometimes the bite and percussive nature of a regular A5 is exactly what you need to cut through.

    Really depends on the pickup's particular wind, the guitar it's in, your overall signal chain/amp set up and what you play.

    Hard to know which is best for YOU until you try one of the options mentioned and determine what you do and/or don't like about it.

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    I get one c5/jb hybrid at home with 13.2 resistance.

    So.... I'm interesting testing.
    If I like custom 5 scooped tonality and not want jb's high mids, wich Other coil could satisfy me, do you think?
    What could, in YOUR opinion, sounds good without sacrifying the base of the c5? (good clarity, rich (pinch) harmonics, fast runs ability)

    If I reed the tonal chart from some pickups, it seems to like that the sentient could be a good choice isn't it?
    Tonality between jazz and 59...a little bit scooped. Could this be interesting, with a5 magnet.?
    He has a good reputation.... Chords, fast runs etc....
    Everything seems to be interesting on this cool.

    Another choice could be a Jason Becker coil paired with a c5. Coil?
    What do you mean?


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    It seems that she made me a jb/full shred hybrid with heavy poly (not heavy formvar)... But the fullshred with slugs, not hex screws because slugs give a more fuller sounding tone.

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    Default Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

    No opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micha View Post
    ... (good clarity, rich (pinch) harmonics, fast runs ability)
    i would say screamin Demon TB-12 or maybe Pegasus.
    both have some Scoop.
    but they are not what i would call fluid.

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    I think you're over thinking this.
    At some point the law of diminishing returns kicks in.
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    Hello everyone.
    I went to get my guitar today at my luthier's house.

    The hybrid jb / full shred is mounted on it. I can test as I want .... I think I made a mistake by making this customshop pup
    Let me explain ....
    The first important thing:
    this pup has an aggressiveness like I've never heard before. I think this is clearly because of the alnico 8.
    I like metal ..... I like to have power with a pup, like we all know with usual pickups .... But here it's too much.
    Each guitar stroke is a blow in the face. It's too aggressive (I never thought I'd write such a thing one day).
    Attention ... I'm not saying it's a bad pickup .... certainly not, but clearly with alico 8, too aggressive.
    What I love is that he have the harmonics like active pup's (emg 81). It's really the same.


    The second thing is the sound in general. It is to different from the custom 5 ... in any case, with the alnico 8.


    The sound is fluid, limpid, articulate. Perfect for solos. But the jb coil is too present, we still recognize his note. the overall sound is not enough Paf oriented.

    This pup is great it goes without saying. I will have to put an alnico 5 to test.

    The alnico 8 in bridge =
    Much too aggressive.
    The mids are really round but put in front. He bites a ****ing lot.
    But in general, the highs are very crystalline / bright.


    I never thought a Pickup with DC resistance of 13.2 could be so aggressive.
    What I do not like at all With alnico 8 is that in the sound there is nothing organic. Perhaps a little uncontrollable.

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    Sounds like my kind of pickup. Remember, pickups with A8's in them tend to be very sensitive to height adjustment. Before you change the magnet, try running the pickup farther away from the strings then you normally would.

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    The JB doesn't sound at all like a PAF EQ to me, and I'd certainly think an A5 would be closer to what you want (and no JB coil at all).
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    Default Re: A custom 5 based trembucker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mincer View Post
    The JB doesn't sound at all like a PAF EQ to me, and I'd certainly think an A5 would be closer to what you want (and no JB coil at all).
    Nor does the Full Shred.

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