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    Little pearls of wisdom tone wisdom that you might want to share with others.

    I'm going to post a few obvious ones for beginners, you continue on and get into the better stuff.

    • Because the high and low frequencies are dominated by other instruments in a band, you should fill the mid frequencies for best cut.

    • Tube amps generally sound louder and better than Solid State amps.Single coils are good for clean, with chimey, bell-like tones.

    • Humbuckers, on the other hand, is the raunchier, crunchier pickup.

    • Marshalls give you British tones with it's EL-34 tubes, Mesa gives you American tones with it's 6l6 tubes

    Many of these statements happen to be generalizations but if you guys jump in and post your own we could all learn a little something. Thanks!
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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    -NEVER SCOOP YOUR MIDS!!!

    -For an amp to have twice the volume, it needs 10x the wattage (eg. a 50w amp will be twice as loud as a 5w)

    -Single-coils buzz (unless they're noiseless ones) and have a thinner sound

    -Humbuckers buck the hum (no buzz) and have a big fat tone

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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    the bridge pickup is a fickle freind. the other pickups are just as useful!

    something that sounds wicked at bedroom levels probably wont at gig levels. scooped mids being the number 1 culprit

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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Rotten Guitar String
    -NEVER SCOOP YOUR MIDS!!!
    That's only dependent on the type of gear a person has.

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    ALWAYS TUNE YOUR TIMPANI!!!

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    If you pick hard on a tube amp it will "dirty up", if you do it on a transistor amp it might get louder. If you roll back your volume on a dirty tube amp it will "clean up", or in other words tube amps have the correct "feel".

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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    this topic should be sticky... that way all the new peopl can read it too, its quite helpful

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    Don't Be Afraid To Use Your Tone Knob!

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    Tone is over-rated! A good musician can make a toy guitar sing.

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    hahaha gotta love the stupid replies you give everything

    but yeah im still down with the sticky idea, hehe, anyone?

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    A GOOD guitarist can make anything sound GOOD.

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    If you have a tube amp, let it warm up.

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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    Try lifiting, especially your combo amps, up from the floor / directing the speakers more against yourself. It'll sound alot different than when the speaker or speakers project the sound along the floor.

    Your tone can be different from day to day depending on the amount of electricity used by other things in your house and in your neighbourhood.

    Remember that small things also alters your tone, try different picks. At least if you don't have anything else to do

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    if you have a 1x12 combo, try to stick it in a corner, mids will change and sometimes you will get a fatter sound out of it.
    Try to turn down your volume when using the bridge pickup, a slight rolloff sometimes sweetens up the sound.
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    Lower your gain, you *******!

    In a full band situation:

    Kick and Bass take care of the very lows and low mids.
    Guitars take up the middle and the low end of the highs.
    Cymbals take up the very top end.

    Don't overload on bass. That's what a bassist is for. Keep your highs tamed.

    EQ your amp from 20 feet away, and standing a bit to the side, as to avoid the harsh frequencies. Then, put a patch of duct tape on the gril in line with the cone of the speaker, to avoid those harsh frequencies.

    EQ from ear level to the audience! Remember that the stage is higher than the crowd 9/10, and that they don't want to get blasted with all of your highs!

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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    Less Is More When It Comes To Effects (especially Distortion/overdrive)

    Always Play With Feeeling And Dont Be Afraid To Let Loose

    When Messing With Your Eq Start From 0 Up And Play At Regular
    Intervals (the Same Chord Or Lick) Until It Sounds About Where
    You Want It....start With The Bass Then Treble And Then Finally
    Mids...then You Can Mess With All The Other Lovely Knobs On Your
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    *A gigging small club guitarist ought to experiment with a beam blocker from Weber Speakers. It does what Stevie Ray did with a piece of duck tape on the grill cloth where the speaker beams out most of it's highs. This will allow the people in the front row to not get killed with your laser beam high end (very directional). The beam blocker will diffuse that high end so that someone sitting at stage left will get similar high end to the ear as a person sitting directly in front of the stage.

    *Always carry a spare tube or two, as well as a fuse for your amp.

    *Use a surge protector strip when playing in unfamiliar surroundings.

    *Different speakers can completely change the sound of your amps. I just finished a new amp and have tried it with three different speakers. Each lends its own color and texture to the amp. Finding the right speaker can be a challenge that some of us can't afford. Learn from others that are using your amp what speaker they've settled on. Tubes, speakers and transformers make the most difference in an amp's tone. 2 of those 3 are available to you for an easy swap. If you are trying new tubes, concentrate on the first preamp tube for the most radical tone change.

    *Power tube distortion sounds better to *my* ears than preamp tube distortion. Crank up the master if you have one and keep the preamp at a manageable level.

    *The standby switch on your amp is there for a reason. Let your tubes warm up for 20-30 seconds before you start playing. THis will increase the life of your tubes. What to do for those 30 seconds? Try tuning up. It will do you a world of good.

    *Good quality cables very rarely go out on you when you need them the most. You don't have to spend stupid money on them, but good quality is important.

    * Too many pedals suck the life (tone) out of your amp IMO.


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    Crank It All The Way To Eleven

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    Default Re: General Tone Tips

    Kinda obvious, but practice with your onstage rig as much as possible (amp, effects etc,) because that is your voice and you need to know what it sounds like and is capable of, and how to make it sound the way you want it to. Mainly, just get used to using the stuff. You can't make a strat sound like a PRS, or a Les Paul, or vice versa, so let the gear sound like it does. If you want a Les Paul sound, sell the Strat. And when you practice, try to close your eyes as much as possible- you'd be surprised how much better you hear with your eyes closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_F
    *A gigging small club guitarist ought to experiment with a beam blocker from Weber Speakers. It does what Stevie Ray did with a piece of duck tape on the grill cloth where the speaker beams out most of it's highs. This will allow the people in the front row to not get killed with your laser beam high end (very directional). The beam blocker will diffuse that high end so that someone sitting at stage left will get similar high end to the ear as a person sitting directly in front of the stage.
    Where can I get those and hpw do theylook like?

    * Too many pedals suck the life (tone) out of your amp IMO
    At least if they don't have a true-bypass switch (a switch that takes the effect completely out of the line by bypassing it physically)

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